Posted by Jon Slaughter on 05/10/07 11:09

"Rami Elomaa" <rami.elomaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Jon Slaughter" <Jon_Slaughter@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> "Rami Elomaa" <rami.elomaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>> "Jon Slaughter" <Jon_Slaughter@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>>I was thinking about a way to use a similar idea but to dramatically
>>>>increase the ability to thawrt bots.
>>>>
>>>> The idea is to use the idea that humans can use context and patterns to
>>>> understand much better than computers in such cases as the following,
>>>>
>>>> http://www.simplebits.com/notebook/2004/01/16/mipellssed_wdors.html
>>>>
>>>> So the idea is to ask the user a very simple questions that is written
>>>> using misspelled words and such so that it makes it almost impossible
>>>> for computers to recognize what the answer is. The question can be
>>>> graphically manipulated so that its also visually harder to figure out
>>>> like a normal captcha.
>>>>
>>>> Besides changing the order of the letters in a word one can
>>>> deliberately change letters so that the word doesn't make sense but in
>>>> the context is not difficult for a human. One can even use bad grammar
>>>> and a few other things to make it more difficult.
>>>>
>>>> I was thinking that one could create a very large database of such
>>>> things in different languages that sites could use.
>>>>
>>>> What do you guys think?
>>>
>>>
>>> You're giving the finger to dyslexic people.
>>>
>>
>> And? So you think they can read normal captchas too?
>
> No, I think the usual captchas are hard to read too, dyslexic or not.
>
>> if they are dyslexic then chances are they can actually read them easier
>> because there is context... so you don't have to read letter for letter
>> but just get the question.
>
> If normal text with context is hard to read, garbled text will be even
> more difficult to read, even if it is in context. Feel free to ignore the
> issue, but please don't pretend it doesn't exist.
>
>> Dyslexia is an excuse for stupid people.
>
> And being blind is just an excuse for being clumsy...
>
that isn't feedback. Shit. What about blind people? Do you bitch that
captchas are completely worthless for them and since 99.9% of people who are
not blind have to act blind because we don't want to in any way descriminate
against the 0.1%?

How many sites use captchas? If its such a difficult thing then obviously
you should bitch at them first.

> Look, if you didn't want feedback then why the hell did you ask in the
> first place?
>

No, that isn't feedback. Your trying to dictate to me something that you
haven't thought out. What about dyslexic people? What the hell about them?
Just cause there are dyslexic people out there that means that the rest of
us have to dumb down everything instead of them trying harder? Theres
plenty of dyslexic people who don't use it as an excuse and I'm partially
dyslexic but I haven't let it get in my way.

It just sounds to me like your making up an excuse for something. Just cause
you personally don't like captchas and thing they are useless doesn't mean
they are. In fact I don't like them either but I don't like that people
think they can do whatever they want. In a perfect world there would be no
need for captchas... but this isn't a perfect world and instead of trying to
make the world conform to you, you need to conform to the world.

You know, theres no telling how many times I've fucked up on some captcha
and had to wait 1 min each time for the timer to go down(Such as on
rapidshare). Sure I get pissed... so what. If it inconvieninces those
loosers who try to hack account then its worth it.

I'm sure those people who are dyslexic can spend 5 mins figuring out a
captcha if it stops 99.9% of bots/hackers. Its not like any normal person
signs up to more than a few accounts a month.

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