Posted by e_matthes on 06/06/07 17:45

On Jun 6, 9:29 am, Erwin Moller
<since_humans_read_this_I_am_spammed_too_m...@spamyourself.com> wrote:
> e_matt...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Jun 6, 2:16 am, Erwin Moller
> > <since_humans_read_this_I_am_spammed_too_m...@spamyourself.com> wrote:
> >> e_matt...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >> > On Jun 5, 9:52 am, "Jon Slaughter" <Jon_Slaugh...@Hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> <e_matt...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >> >>news:1181061914.124630.303680@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> >> > Hello everyone,
>
> >> >> > I am trying to use the mail() function to send a simple, text-only
> >> >> > message. I have two websites hosted by the same company, on
> >> >> > different
> >> >> > servers. One is old and established, one I am currently developing.
> >> >> > I am testing the mail functionality by sending a test message to an
> >> >> > email account associated with my old website, and to my hotmail
> >> >> > account. The message seems to be sent to both accounts, and I
> >> >> > receive the message on my website's email account, but it never
> >> >> > reaches my hotmail account.
>
> >> >> > Are there any special headers required for hotmail? I've looked
> >> >> > around a bit, and can't seem to figure it out. I've even tried
> >> >> > including several different headers, but always with the same
> >> >> > results
> >> >> > - reaches my website's email account, but not my hotmail account.
> >> >> > The code I am using to test is:
>
> >> >> > <?php
>
> >> >> > $body = 'Hello from the internet mail tubes!';
> >> >> > $subject = 'Test message';
> >> >> > $address = 'working_address@other_domain.com';
> >> >> > $address2 = 'working_addr...@hotmail.com';
> >> >> > $headers = "From: working_address@this_domain.com";
>
> >> >> > mail($address, $subject, $body, $headers) or print "Can not deliver
> >> >> > to $address.";
> >> >> > print "Done with $address.<br>";
>
> >> >> > mail($address2, $subject, $body, $headers) or print "Can not deliver
> >> >> > to $address2.";
> >> >> > print "Done with $address2.<br>";
>
> >> >> > ?>
>
> >> >> I think there are some issues with mail(). I'm not sure if thats your
> >> >> problem but I ran across a few bugs that it has when I was trying to
> >> >> figure out how to mail. They say the pear mail package is much better
> >> >> than this.
>
> >> >> The code I used for testing works fine for hotmail
>
> >> >> <?php
> >> >> echo "Sending Mail...<br/>\n";
> >> >> $to = 'testa...@hotmail.com'; // changed
> >> >> $subject = 'test';
> >> >> $message = 'hello';
> >> >> $headers = 'From: webmas...@example.com' . "\r\n" . // Not changed...
> >> >> just crap addr but works
> >> >> 'Reply-To: webmas...@example.com' . "\r\n" .
> >> >> 'X-Mailer: PHP/' . phpversion();
>
> >> >> mail($to, $subject, $message, $headers) ? print "Sent mail!" : print
> >> >> "Cannot send mail";;
> >> >> ?>
>
> >> >> You might look at that and see the differences. (as you can see, it
> >> >> uses the "\r\n" and some extra info that you might see if it matters
> >> >> or not)
>
> >> > I started receiving the messages on the hotmail account once I added
> >> > my domain to the safe list in hotmail. That's a step in the right
> >> > direction, but I'd like to figure out what's missing or incorrect
> >> > which makes it get filtered out. Any thoughts on required headers or
> >> > format for hotmail?
>
> >> So PHP's mail() DID work just fine.
> >> If you configured hotmail to block anything except the domains in your
> >> 'safe list', what do you expect?
> >> No header will fix that, unless hotmail is broken.
>
> >> Regards,
> >> Erwin Moller
>
> > I didn't configure hotmail to block anything except the domains in my
> > 'safe list'. I have never used the safe list option, and I've been
> > using this account for about 7 years with very little spam, and
> > without setting up custom spam filters.
>
> Ok clear. I didn't know that.
> (Never used hotmail)
>
> Some mailservers are extremely picky when it comes to headers.
> You could try to add a few, like:
> Return-Path
> Meassage-ID
>
> Maybe that helps. :-/
>
> Good luck.
> Erwin Moller
>
> PS: A guy named Gordon Burditt frequents this group and knows a lot more
> about mailprotocols than I do. Maybe contact him. :-)

Thanks, I'll look out for him. In the mean time, I'll post a message
like most other sites do that if the user doesn't receive initial
messages, to check their spam filter settings. I'll also play around
with headers, starting with the ones you suggested.

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