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Posted by e_matthes on 06/07/07 15:39
On Jun 6, 10:44 am, "Jon Slaughter" <Jon_Slaugh...@Hotmail.com> wrote:
> <e_matt...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> news:1181151919.436905.171490@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
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> > On Jun 6, 9:29 am, Erwin Moller
> > <since_humans_read_this_I_am_spammed_too_m...@spamyourself.com> wrote:
> >> e_matt...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >> > On Jun 6, 2:16 am, Erwin Moller
> >> > <since_humans_read_this_I_am_spammed_too_m...@spamyourself.com> wrote:
> >> >> e_matt...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >> >> > On Jun 5, 9:52 am, "Jon Slaughter" <Jon_Slaugh...@Hotmail.com>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> <e_matt...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> >> >> >>news:1181061914.124630.303680@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
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> >> >> >> > Hello everyone,
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> >> >> >> > I am trying to use the mail() function to send a simple,
> >> >> >> > text-only
> >> >> >> > message. I have two websites hosted by the same company, on
> >> >> >> > different
> >> >> >> > servers. One is old and established, one I am currently
> >> >> >> > developing.
> >> >> >> > I am testing the mail functionality by sending a test message to
> >> >> >> > an
> >> >> >> > email account associated with my old website, and to my hotmail
> >> >> >> > account. The message seems to be sent to both accounts, and I
> >> >> >> > receive the message on my website's email account, but it never
> >> >> >> > reaches my hotmail account.
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> >> >> >> > Are there any special headers required for hotmail? I've looked
> >> >> >> > around a bit, and can't seem to figure it out. I've even tried
> >> >> >> > including several different headers, but always with the same
> >> >> >> > results
> >> >> >> > - reaches my website's email account, but not my hotmail account.
> >> >> >> > The code I am using to test is:
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> >> >> >> > <?php
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> >> >> >> > $body = 'Hello from the internet mail tubes!';
> >> >> >> > $subject = 'Test message';
> >> >> >> > $address = 'working_address@other_domain.com';
> >> >> >> > $address2 = 'working_addr...@hotmail.com';
> >> >> >> > $headers = "From: working_address@this_domain.com";
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> >> >> >> > mail($address, $subject, $body, $headers) or print "Can not
> >> >> >> > deliver
> >> >> >> > to $address.";
> >> >> >> > print "Done with $address.<br>";
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> >> >> >> > mail($address2, $subject, $body, $headers) or print "Can not
> >> >> >> > deliver
> >> >> >> > to $address2.";
> >> >> >> > print "Done with $address2.<br>";
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> >> >> >> > ?>
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> >> >> >> I think there are some issues with mail(). I'm not sure if thats
> >> >> >> your
> >> >> >> problem but I ran across a few bugs that it has when I was trying
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> figure out how to mail. They say the pear mail package is much
> >> >> >> better
> >> >> >> than this.
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> >> >> >> The code I used for testing works fine for hotmail
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> >> >> >> <?php
> >> >> >> echo "Sending Mail...<br/>\n";
> >> >> >> $to = 'testa...@hotmail.com'; // changed
> >> >> >> $subject = 'test';
> >> >> >> $message = 'hello';
> >> >> >> $headers = 'From: webmas...@example.com' . "\r\n" . // Not
> >> >> >> changed...
> >> >> >> just crap addr but works
> >> >> >> 'Reply-To: webmas...@example.com' . "\r\n" .
> >> >> >> 'X-Mailer: PHP/' . phpversion();
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> >> >> >> mail($to, $subject, $message, $headers) ? print "Sent mail!" :
> >> >> >> print
> >> >> >> "Cannot send mail";;
> >> >> >> ?>
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> >> >> >> You might look at that and see the differences. (as you can see, it
> >> >> >> uses the "\r\n" and some extra info that you might see if it
> >> >> >> matters
> >> >> >> or not)
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> >> >> > I started receiving the messages on the hotmail account once I added
> >> >> > my domain to the safe list in hotmail. That's a step in the right
> >> >> > direction, but I'd like to figure out what's missing or incorrect
> >> >> > which makes it get filtered out. Any thoughts on required headers
> >> >> > or
> >> >> > format for hotmail?
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> >> >> So PHP's mail() DID work just fine.
> >> >> If you configured hotmail to block anything except the domains in your
> >> >> 'safe list', what do you expect?
> >> >> No header will fix that, unless hotmail is broken.
>
> >> >> Regards,
> >> >> Erwin Moller
>
> >> > I didn't configure hotmail to block anything except the domains in my
> >> > 'safe list'. I have never used the safe list option, and I've been
> >> > using this account for about 7 years with very little spam, and
> >> > without setting up custom spam filters.
>
> >> Ok clear. I didn't know that.
> >> (Never used hotmail)
>
> >> Some mailservers are extremely picky when it comes to headers.
> >> You could try to add a few, like:
> >> Return-Path
> >> Meassage-ID
>
> >> Maybe that helps. :-/
>
> >> Good luck.
> >> Erwin Moller
>
> >> PS: A guy named Gordon Burditt frequents this group and knows a lot more
> >> about mailprotocols than I do. Maybe contact him. :-)
>
> > Thanks, I'll look out for him. In the mean time, I'll post a message
> > like most other sites do that if the user doesn't receive initial
> > messages, to check their spam filter settings. I'll also play around
> > with headers, starting with the ones you suggested.
>
> If you do find the problem and solution post it here so we'll have a record
> of it incase someone else runs into it too.
>
> Jon
I looked up posts from Gordon, and that was very helpful. I started
using the pear:mail package, which did not fix things right away. I
found that this combination of headers seems to work:
$this->headers['Subject'] = 'Test Subject';
$this->headers['From'] = "activeAddress@myDomain.com";
$this->headers['Return-Path'] = "sameActiveAddress@mydomain.com";
$this->headers['X-Priority'] = "3";
Thanks everyone for the help.
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