Posted by mark | r on 07/11/05 15:53

"windandwaves" <winandwaves@coldmail.com> wrote in message
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> mark | r wrote:
> > yeah Blair will use it to push through ID Cards - which will have NO
> > EFFECT on terrorism what so ever - roumers have it that the cards
> > will (at the last count) cost �240 - this has risen from the original
> > quoted price of �40 - blair's said that �240 is not a lot of money -
> > for him maybe, but i certainly cant afford that - also you'll have to
> > update them every X years costing yet another �240 tho buy then i
> > expect the price will have risen again
> >
> > and if you dont buy one you'll get fined �2000 for every day you dont
> > have one - i'd rarther go to prison than subject myself to yet
> > enother TAX! i hope us british stand up against such opression.
> >
> > expect some of my future posts to be c/o HM Prison Services :)
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > "Awake" <Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header> wrote in message
> > news:VYMMT8UC38544.272962963@anonymous...
> >>
> >>
> >> As the smoke begins to clear we see the same pattern develop as
> >> after 9-11-2001. The perpetrator (the fictional "Al Qaeda") is
> >> immediately named by the media. The political agenda -whatever it
> >> may have been- is gone and replaced by the "War on Terror". Issues
> >> such as poverty and domestic spending priorities are pushed off the
> >> map. Political dissenters find little tolerance and may find
> >> themselves warned to shut up and get with the program (throw up the
> >> one arm salute!).
> >>
> >> And what of the evidence for this being a strike by "Al Qaeda"? Oh,
> >> there will be no investigation of that by the media. All claims by
> >> the "security services" will be transmitted unquestioned. No blame
> >> will befall MI6. Instead the budgets for security will immediately
> >> go up. Civil liberties will be retracted in order to "fight terror".
> >>
> >> So while the blast is still topical and before things are pushed
> >> down the Orwellian memory hole let us examine this supposed "claim
> >> of responsibility". Here in America there has never been even the
> >> slightest attention paid to the details of any "claim of
> >> responsibility". All we get is that "the CIA confirms".
> >>
> >> In the Guardian on July 9, 2005 David Gallister reports that the
> >> claim was made on a Web site registered by "Qalaah Qalaah in Abu
> >> Dhabi" and the site was hosted not in the mysterious mountains of
> >> Pakistan, but "by a server in Houston, Texas".
> >>
> >> Oh my.
> >>
> >> Now we Americans reading this can see why we are never given details.
> >>
> >> It gets worse actually because even this is not traceable to any
> >> webmaster. The claim is on a "forum" where anyone can post. That
> >> means some kid could have posted this child like claim of an
> >> organization called "the Secret Organisation of the al-Qaida Jihad
> >> in Europe".
> >>
> >> Sounds like something from Batman.
> >>
> >> Almost a year ago a man in San Francisco named Benjamin Vanderford
> >> faked his own beheading and uploaded the video through file sharing
> >> programs. His "beheading" was then reported as fact by the
> >> "American" media, in fact they seemed gleeful to have such a gory
> >> incident to report.
> >>
> >> The only thing different here is that we have real dead bodies, but
> >> there is no evidence whatsoever to point to any "terror group".
> >>
> >> However, we can do some theorizing. Let's look at that language of
> >> the claim that was made at www.al-qal3ah.com . "The Secret
> >> Organisation of the al-Qaida Jihad in Europe", oh my doesn't that
> >> sound evil! Kind of like the "axis of evil" and referring to unnamed
> >> people as "evil doers" and "bad guys".
> >>
> >> Who does that? Perhaps it is better to ask "who writes that for
> >> Dubya to say?"
> >>
> >> Climate change? Debt forgiveness for Africa? World poverty? Peace in
> >> the Middle East?
> >>
> >> Poof!
> >>
> >> Replaced by the "War on Terror"!
> >>
> >> Can you see the smile on Dubya's face?
> >>
> >> They're all smiles at Langley and Tel Aviv as well.
> >>
> >>
> >> - - - - - -
> >> "According to Michael Moloney, Gehring had even applied to
> >> the CIA, and used to tell a story about it. The marine from
> >> Dayton 'had no academic credentials,' Moloney relates, but
> >> the CIA 'liked his attitude. "The world is full of commie bastards
> >> and all I wanted to do at that time was kill, kill, kill."'
> >> Moloney quotes Gehring as having said."
> >> -Jonathan Kwitny,"The Crimes of Patriots" ISBN: 0-393-02387-7
> >>
> >>
> >> -=-
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>
> I wonder what it feels like to be responsible for the death of so many
> people. Do you think you can ever justify something like that to yourself
> along the lines "for of the greater good"?
>
>

politics has no social conciounce - just self interest and greed...
LOL - up the workers - LOL :)

mark

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