Posted by Neredbojias on 06/29/07 05:04

On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 23:18:35 GMT dorayme scribed:

>> singularity has haunted me for
>> years. The notion, simply put, is that it is/was both something and
>> nothing outside of time. Now how can anyone in their right mind
>> accept that? Ergo, I thought referring to it in the shade of
>> dorayme's sentient penumbra might just shed some light on the reality
>> or lack thereof imbued within the scope of my nightmare.
>
>
> I take this as license to speak. Perhaps you are having
> difficulty with the idea of anything being outside of time?

Yes, that is true. How can existence itself *be* with no time? I can
possibly accept timelessness in conjunction with a test-acceptance of The
Singularity or absolutely nothing at all, but otherwise I see it as
impossible.

> With
> some things, it makes no sense for them to be time stamped; for
> example, there is a prime number between 5 and 8 but it can
> hardly have any kind of lifespan.

Ironically, it is true for all time. It becomes non-true with no time.


> Now, if something has no
> lifespan, it cannot be in time.

I think semantics are getting in the way here. Everything you know,
imagine, or feel exists within time. Even 2 + 2 = 4 needs "time" to have
any meaning. Physical laws do not exist outside of time so neither do
their formulae.

> The other difficulty you are having perhaps is the idea of being
> on the edge of something. What really is an edge? I have a Theory
> of Edges but I get this funny feeling that it might be a bit OT
> to expound it here.

Well, an edge can be part of something, as the edge of a precipice. It can
be a limit in other ways, -the limit of my patience. I suppose it can be
external to something as well, but what are your thoughts? Don't keep me
on edge...

--
Neredbojias

Once I had a little dog
Who wagged its tail spritely.
But it walked by the harvestor
And now is shorter slightly.

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