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Posted by Hadron on 07/15/07 14:54
Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> writes:
> Hadron wrote:
>> Michael Fesser <netizen@gmx.de> writes:
>>
>>> You are the second one in this thread who obviously didn't read the "not
>>> logged in" in the original post
>>
>> I am reading the "stateless protocol" stuff above and replying to that
>> in the context of PHP.
>>
>
> Then you're not understanding what "stateless protocol" means.
>
> .
>>> And what does session counting tell you? Sessions can be open for hours
>>> without any user interaction. The user could have died already in front
>>> of his monitor and his session would still be open.
>>
>> That's not the issue. Clearly something on a server cant know IF he is
>> reading the page or not. You can only go on the connections.
>>
>
> This is correct.
Good. Because that is ALL this is about.
>
>> "Currently online" has a meaning - and that is that HIS PC is
>> connected. The rest is guesswork.
>>
>
> There is no way to know if someone si "currently online". All you
> know is he was online when he last requested a page. Anything else is
> a guess.
Jesus H Christ.
Yes. But he IS connected. The session IS open. Whether he is physically
sat there is something we can NEVER know.
>
>>> Whatever way you go - it's always just guessing. So why bother at all?
>>
>> Absolute tosh.
>>
>
> Yep, your concept is absolute tosh.
Balderdash.
>
>>> Why show a questionable "information" that is of absolutely no use for
>>> the visitor? Just to show how cool and active the "community" is? If you
>>> want that you can use rand() - it's much easier than all others
>>> methods.
>>
>> As I said - you are clueless.
>>
>
> Yep, you are totally clueless. You have absolutely no idea how this
> works, and think you can pull the wool over experienced programmers'
> eyes.
What ARE you talking about? I have implemented session based web sites.
>
> You can do it to clueless clients. But you can't do it here.
>
> And I pity those clients.
Ye gods. Go get a clue.
>
>>> Micha
>>
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