Posted by W Marsh on 07/16/07 09:05

On 16 Jul, 01:17, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote:
> W Marsh wrote:
> > On 15 Jul, 15:27, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote:
> >> W Marsh wrote:
> >>> On 15 Jul, 14:41, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote:
> >>>> Sorry, my crystal ball is in the shop. I have no idea what might be
> >>>> happening. Maybe if you post your code...
> >>> No. For one thing it's private, commercial code, and secondly, I've
> >>> given enough information about the problem.
> >> Maybe in your opinion you have. But you have given us no idea about how
> >> you're going about the problem or a lot of other things.
>
> >> If you had given enough information, we could help you.
>
> >> And BTW - in PHP there is no such thing as "private" code. Once you
> >> give it to a customer the source is available, unless you get one of the
> >> encryption engines, i.e. from Zend.
>
> > Well, there is. Not a single person outside of the company will ever
> > see this code, because it's a backend system that powers customer
> > facing front ends. Surely you have come across such a situation
> > before! Not all PHP ends up as forum software.
>
> So? That makes it so special? ROFLMAO!

Sorry, what is your point?

Oh, automatic derision. Of course.

>
>
>
> >>> I don't appreciate people making sarcastic comments like that. If you
> >>> have no idea about the problem then keep quiet, or if you genuinely
> >>> are missing important details, make a polite request, e.g. "Are you
> >>> doing X between closing and re-opening the file?". I'm not an outlet
> >>> for problems with your insecurities and ego.
> >> And I don't appreciate people arguing that they have provided enough
> >> information when they are asking for help.
>
> >> I have no insecurities, and my ego isn't a problem. But obviously yours
> >> are.
>
> > I'm sure you don't like Google Groups, but it's a useful tool.

> As for whether I like Google Groups or not - the fact you use them is an
> excellent indication of your IQ.

Heh! I wonder if you realise the relevance of "I'm sure you don't like
Google Groups", and the confirmation in your reply.

I love that you've actually risen to a stereotype that I have
presented before you, simultaneously being unaware of the ridiculous
ignorance you're displaying.

Christ, I bet you've got a wall covered in Tux posters and refer to
anyone not using Linux as a luser, regardless of any other factors.

>
> >>> If you really are that unimaginative, then here's some code (using my
> >>> own original description as a design spec, proving my point somewhat):
> >> I don't need to be "imaginative". I can come up with at least a half
> >> dozen ways to do what your description says you're doing.
>
> >> I need to see the code YOU are using.
>
> >> If you want help here, you need to get rid of the attitude and post
> >> something which SHOWS the problem.
>
> > If you want to help here... etc. etc.
>
> Exactly. You're the one asking for help, not me. And with your
> attitude, you won't get much help here.

You're very a very silly man.

>
> OTOH, if you want to pay my regular rate ($125/hr., 4 hour minimum,
> payable in advance), I'll be glad to guess at your problem. And when
> your 4 hours runs out, you can pay for another 4 hours of my time.

Yeeees, we're all very impressed.

You know, you could be replaced by a simple bot that just repeats
tired old Usenet geek lines like that non-stop. A very simple one.

> Not at all a sarcastic comment. Actually, one you will find quite often
> in this group from several people when assholes like you expect us to
> guess at their problem.

Oh, stop making an issue that isn't there.

>
> >> For one thing, you don't have all errors enabled - or you would have
> >> seen that your first line is wrong. It should be:
>
> >> define('FILE_NAME', "somefile.txt");
>
> > Yuck. I dislike PHP, as a language. I wish that I didn't have to use
> > it. It seems almost designed to catch the programmer out - a syntax
> > error should be rigid. The fact that the code works anyway seems more
> > like a "syntax recommendation". It is ridiculous for PHP to make the
> > assumption that the programmer has read every detail of the (poor)
> > documentation that exists for language elements, and punish the time-
> > pressed newcomer by expecting him to know that there is an option for
> > enabling all errors.
>
> I find the documentation is excellent. But you need to READ it -
> something you have obviously not done.

You're even ignorant of things that are written in the posts you're
replying to.

>
>
>
> >> Now some other questions:
>
> >> What versions of PHP are the two systems using?
>
> > I can't be minor version accurate about the production server on a
> > Sunday, but I know it's PHP5. The server I did the successful test on
> > is running PHP 4.4.2.
>
> >> What OS are they using?
>
> > Production: Gentoo Linux.
> > Test: Ubuntu Linux
>
> >> What directory are you writing the file to?
>
> > Production: /usr/censored/censored2/files/
> > Test: /home/var/wwwroot/vhosts/sitename.com/httpdocs
>
> >> Do you have permission to flock() the file?
>
> > Yes.
>
> >> Once I corrected the above problem your code works on two different systems.
>
> > I suspect it will work on most systems, which is unfortunate for me,
> > as it probably means I am facing an obscure configuration issue.
>
> > Thanks for your help.
>
> And quite frankly, from the rest of your attitude, I'm not interested in
> spending any more of my volunteer time helping you. If you want to pay
> for my help, let me know via email.

You're not that valuable to me. I am capable of searching for
information, experimenting, solving problems by logical process and
bug hunting. I am also aware that experience from long time users can
be a short cut to the correct solution. However, that resource is
exhausted now, and your part of it has been worthless from the start.
You've impressed nobody, and only served to show how dull, unlikeable
and predictable people can be. You've managed to contribute nothing
intelligent to any part of the conversation or debate (even your put-
downs aren't actually devised from you, but formed by process of
osmosis from years of watching other contributors with personality
defects), and the saddest part is that you'll never be aware of it, or
even understand.

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