Posted by SpaceGirl on 07/26/07 17:16

Chaddy2222 wrote:
> On Jul 26, 5:56 pm, SpaceGirl <nothespacegirls...@subhuman.net> wrote:
>> Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
>>> Check it out:
>>> http://www.neopets.com/games/play.phtml?game_id=877
>>> It uses an ActiveX plugin called 3D Life Player by Virtools. Pretty
>>> slick stuff. I'm wondering if and when Flash will take the leap into
>>> 3D content.
>>> The interesting thing is that since Neopets is starting to use it for
>>> their games...well that basically equates to MILLIONS of users
>>> worldwide who will install the plugin, making it a fairly viable
>>> option as far as web content.
>> There's a really good 3D api we're playing with right now for Flash
>> (PaperVision3D) that doens't require a plug in. You should check it out.
>>
>> I can't runthe neopets thing as it requires ActiveX, and I'm one of the
>> 10% of people on an Apple. And don't forget the 50% of people in Europe
>> who don't use IE any more... plus Neopets is not actually that popular.
>> 1 million is a tiny drop in the ocean when it comes to the 800 million
>> web users out there... If they're serious, they need to come up with a
>> FireFox version as people are becoming more cautious about downloading
>> "new" plugins.
>>
>> Neopets isn't that popular (it's so yesterday!) :)
>>
>> I will try it at the studio where we have a PC!
>>
> I tend to agree with you about the fact that people are not as willing
> to install plug-ins anymore. I am not sure on the 50% figgure for non
> IE users, but I would not be shocked by that as many people are not

Given between 5-10% of European users are using Opera or Safari, and
then this:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,134615-pg,1/article.html

I think 40-50% isn't far off the mark for Europe. Our own stats on our
EU servers suggest around 35% non-IE, and growing.


> happy with IE7 and want what it has to offer but need a better browser
> (they notice that FF have been doing what IE now does for years and
> have swiched).

I dislike Fx's sluggish rendering, but generally it is faster than IE in
my experience. But then, I don't have a PC, so don't get to use it THAT
often :)


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