Posted by Rami Elomaa on 07/30/07 05:38

"Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote in message
news:WcidnTsFVfvtlTDbnZ2dnUVZ_qainZ2d@comcast.com...
> Rami Elomaa wrote:
>> Jerry Stuckle kirjoitti:
>>> Rami Elomaa wrote:
>>>> Frank kirjoitti:
>>>>> Good morning,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm a newbie and I'm about to study a scripting language to create an
>>>>> HTML form. What's the best language for this, and why?
>>>>>
>>>>> JavaScript? PHP? PERL? Ajax? ASP? VBScript?
>>>>
>>>> First you need to get your terms right. There's client-side scripting,
>>>> and then there's server-side scripting. PHP, Perl, ASP and JSP (which
>>>> you didn't mention, but it's wort looking into still) are server-side
>>>> languages, JavaScript and VBScript are client-side. Ajax is not a
>>>> language at all, it's the name for a technique that allows javascript
>>>> to communicate with some server-side application.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, you need to get your terms right. VBScript is also server-side.
>>>
>>>> Choosing between javascript and vbscript, there really is no
>>>> competition, VBScript is microsoft proprietary bullshit, it works only
>>>> in MS Internet Explorer, and knowing that there is a variety of other
>>>> browsers, you can't choose a language that works in only one of them.
>>>> So for client-side scripts you use javascript. And if possible, don't
>>>> use it, try to make everything work with just server-side scripts.
>>>> JavaScript is just an enhancment, not a complete solution.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It also works on Microsoft servers, i.e. IIS. While I'm not fond of it,
>>> I do have a couple of customers who use it. It works quite well, when
>>> done properly.
>>>
>>> When run on the server, the client doesn't matter, just like any
>>> server-side language.
>>>
>>>> Next the choice between PHP, Perl, ASP and JSP. Again, one of these
>>>> languages is microsoft-only, works only in Windows+IIS webserver,
>>>> wouldn't go there. For PHP, Perl and JSP then, JSP is propably the most
>>>> sophisticated since it's completly object oriented language, maybe most
>>>> difficult to learn but worth it. PHP and Perl are good choices both,
>>>> just pick one. Since this is a php group I have to recommend php.
>>>>
>>>
>>> ASP is not a language. It is an interface. You can use several
>>> different languages with it.
>>>
>>> JSP is also not a language, but a way of adding Java code to web pages.
>>> The underlying code is Java.
>>>
>>> Before suggesting someone else get their terminology straight, I suggest
>>> you get yours straight. And get rid of the attitude.
>>
>> Thanks Jerry for correcting me. JavaScript as server-side is such an
>> unusual situation that I don't even consider it as such, even though it
>> is entierly possible as you pointed out. As for VB and ASP you are
>> correct, my bad. But what do you mean by attitude and why should I get
>> rid of it? I thought I was helping the fellow but it seems that you know
>> better than me so from now on I'll say nothing. Instead of getting rid of
>> an attitude I'll get rid of myself.
>>
>> It's been fun here, time to move on.
>>
>> -Rammy
>>
>
> Rammy,
>
> I didn't say anything about Javascript being server side. Only VBScript.

Well nevertheless JS is also server-side.

> As for your attitude - I'm referring to your comments such as "VBScript is
> microsoft proprietary bullshit".

Well it is. ;)

> Maybe it is, and maybe you feel this way. However, the op was requesting
> an honest comparison between languages, and such comments limit your
> credibility.

Fine, as I said earlier, I shall not bother this group again with my
attitude.

--
Rami.Elomaa@gmail.com

"Good tea. Nice house." -- Worf

[Back to original message]