Posted by G on 07/31/07 22:11

Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 04:19:13 -0700, Chaddy2222
> <spamlovermailbox-sicurity@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>>>> Well yes, but at least if you find a bad HTML site you can turn off
>>>> styleing and still get to the content that you need!.
>>>> You can't do that at all with a Flash site.
>
>>> If the site is CSS'd yes you can turn off styling. But you're adding
>>> another technology into the mix. HTML itself is a presentational
>>> mess.
>> Yep, although it was / is not really ment to be used for
>> presentation. It being HTML in this case. It's just ment to describe
>> the function of a particular thing, a block of text as a paragraph
>> as an example. Although at times the technology needs to be used in
>> a way which some people will not agree with, but in those types of
>> situations I think the best a designer can do is to provide some
>> kind of fall-back method so people can still get some value out of
>> the content.
>
> That's good when you want to keep in mind retards, I keep retards in
> mind on my primary site where I have a plain text fall back version,
> HOWEVER, for those that aren't retarded, they understand that content
> and design are VERY much interlinked and dependant on one another.
>
> Please try and read this...if you aren't retarded:
>> http://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-12516-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=34733&messageID=639263&start=-9994
>
>
>> Hmmm, that would depend on what you think is "great". Although Flash
>> is ideal for art type sites and those kind of sites that don't
>> actually require anyone to gain access to the information (music /
>> band sites are a bit of an exception to the rule). Due to the fact
>> that a lot of bands need to use extensive branding (specific fonts
>> etc that can't be provided *easily* any other way.
>
> WRONG!
>
> Even for just a PLAIN TEXT SITE, Flash is VASTLY superior to HTML in a
> whole variety of ways, from being able to embed fonts, to having
> proper font anti-aliasing, to having true liquid sized text as opposed
> to just liquid space stretched text.
>
> Again, it's all about the designer, yes in the hands of an AMATEUR it
> may not be possible to create a site like that and, yes, you amateurs
> should stick to kiddie, training pants languages like HTML. Simply
> put, Flash was NOT made for amateur web designers, it's made for
> PROFESSIONALS and ARTISTS. It's the difference between oil paints and
> Crayolas. You would NEVER give a three year old a box of oil paints,
> Crayolas, yes, oil paints...no.

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