Posted by Ivan Marsh on 07/31/07 21:49

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 17:32:47 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

> Ivan Marsh wrote:
>> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:45:15 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>
>>> Ivan Marsh wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 14:48:31 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ivan Marsh wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 12:25:30 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ivan Marsh wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 20:22:44 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ivan Marsh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:05:21 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Ivan Marsh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:47:59 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ivan Marsh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 19:42:18 +0200, Rik wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, about the topic of posting his question in this group.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes it was not the best place to post it, but Rami could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have simply answered his question, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No and, it sets precedents. Even now more and more people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep turning up here for MySQL questions. Why? Because they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get answered. I myself am also guilty, giving answers to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those questions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have no problem that people ask MySQL questions in this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> group... a lot of us run LAMP servers after all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not to mention the original question had *almost* nothing to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do with MySQL.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The MySQL client will produce output as wide as the terminal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're running it in. Set the xterm window for 120 characters
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (for instance) and the MySQL client will produce 120
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> character wide output.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe YOU don't. But most of us would rather see PHP
>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions here.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Did I miss the meeting where you were elected talking head for
>>>>>>>>>>>> the group?
>>>>>>>>>>> It was the same meeting where you were elected newsgroup troll.
>>>>>>>>>> Brilliant retort... you clearly put me in my place there... but
>>>>>>>>>> you should probably look up what "troll" means in an nntp
>>>>>>>>>> context.
>>>>>>>>> Yep, I know exactly what it means. And it fits you perfectly.
>>>>>>>> You clearly don't. Apparently you think it applies to anyone who
>>>>>>>> disagrees with you and stands up to you after you've been an ass.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Perhaps you should take a break from posting until you stop
>>>>>>>> menstruating.
>>>>>>> ROFLMAO! Check back through this thread. You started the name
>>>>>>> calling.
>>>>>>> And you kept trying to change the subject because you had no
>>>>>>> arguments.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And you continue. Just another troll.
>>>>>> As I said, you should look up what troll means. Let me look back in
>>>>>> the thread and refresh your memory:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "I have no problem that people ask MySQL questions in this group... a
>>>>>> lot of us run LAMP servers after all."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To which you felt it necessary to act like you own the group and be
>>>>>> an ass.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you can't be civil then don't expect other to be.
>>>>> Get it straight in your head, troll. This is a PHP newsgroup. If you
>>>>> don't believe it, read the charter for the newsgroup. You can find it
>>>>> at http://www.dbforums.com/archive/index.php/t-400780.html.
>>>> You are truly deluded.
>>>>
>>>> Are you suggesting that it would be inappropriate for someone to ask a
>>>> PHP related MySQL question in this group?
>>>>
>>>> Do you know what a LAMP server is?
>>>>
>>>> Are you aware that in my post I also pointed out that the question was
>>>> not only off topic for this group but for a MySQL group as well?
>>>>
>>>> This argument has nothing to do with what's on or off topic here but
>>>> the fact that you're a big whiny dork that thought he should act like
>>>> the emperor of the group by parroting information I had already
>>>> included in my post back to me as if you were an authority.
>>>>
>>>> If all you can do is call people a troll when they clearly aren't being
>>>> one and are incapable of justifying your own statements then your
>>>> opinion is pretty much irrelevant.
>>> Read the charter. This group is for PHP questions. I'm not the
>>> authority - the charter for this newsgroup is.
>>
>> Then don't speak as if you are.
>
> I'm just repeating what the charter said.


Your response to my suggesting LAMP questions were fine with me:
"Maybe YOU don't. But most of us would rather see PHP questions here.
If you want MySQL questions, try one of the MySQL newsgroups. That's
what they're there for."

>>> And there is nothing in the charter discussing MySQL. It is all about
>>> PHP.
>>
>> So if someone is trying to figure out why their PHP code that connects to
>> a MySQL server isn't working they should be refused help?
>>
>> What if their PHP code is trying to write a file to the file system?
>> Should they be in a group for the filesystem?
>>
>> So, help me understand, as far as you're concerned the only questions on
>> topic here are concerning PHP syntax in a vacuum? Not application?
>
> That is not what I said. And not what the charter says. Learn to read.
> It's simple English.

Yea... that's what I thought. Redefine and backpedal.

>>> That's what this discussion is about - not the fact that you're a troll.
>>
>> Could you explain how that last statement even makes sense?
>
> It's just the fact. This discussion is about whether MySQL questions
> are appropriate to this newsgroup. They aren't, according to the
> Charter. And just because YOU think it's ok to post MySQL questions in
> here doesn't mean it is.
>
> Thats' what the discussion is about. You've already proven yourself to
> be a troll. That's not necessary to discuss.

Just can't admit that you're wrong can you?

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