Posted by Steve on 09/18/07 15:01

"Shelly" <sheldonlg.news@asap-consult.com> wrote in message
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> "Steve" <no.one@example.com> wrote in message
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>> "Shelly" <sheldonlg.news@asap-consult.com> wrote in message
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>>> Steve, I know that atheists like to claim that it is "lack of belief",
>>> but go to websters at www.m-w.com. It specifically states that it is
>>> "disbelief in the existence of deity". What you call "atheism" is
>>> really "agnosticism". Again, from Websters:
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>> negative, ghost rider.
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>> i am without belief in god. remember your latin. i am without belief in
>> god. whatever you want to call that, that's what i am. i see no evidence
>> for god, and in such a state, i cannot be agnostic. i do not allow for
>> the possibility of god's existence due to lack of evidence. agnostics
>> believe that god could possibly exist, we just cannot know for sure. that
>> is NOT me.
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>> i don't know where i'm losing you here, shelly. perhaps we have different
>> versions of websters. perhaps as she aged, meriam couldn't help herself
>> either and started using disbelief - which means there is evidence there
>> is something in which to believe...a gross presumption. try other
>> dictionaries. they all differ. hell, dictionary.com definition shows many
>> sources. here's what i love seeing...it shows complete lack of
>> understanding which is why we are having this discourse.
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>> american heritage:
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>> disbelief or denial of the existence of god or gods.
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>> right next to:
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>> a lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.
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>> doesn't denial mean there is unequivically something in evidence for me
>> to deny? are you getting my point?
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> No, and yes. Example:
>
> Statgement: "I watched TV last night"
> Denial: No you didn't.
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> Where is there something in unequivocably in evidence for having watched
> TV last night? It is still a "denial".

good point. however, it is what is done after 'denial' that makes an atheist
or agnostic.

> OK, you can live with your definition from American Heritage. All my
> life, we always referred to Websters, so I'll live with mine.

i perfer not being labeled at all. ;^)

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