Posted by Jerry Stuckle on 09/18/07 20:12

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> Steve wrote:
>>>> Ah, but whether you like it or not, atheism is a religion. It is
>>>> not a "lack of belief" - it is a specifically belief there is no god.
>>>>
>>>> Try to deny it all you want. It won't work.
>>>
>>> negative, ghost rider.
>>>
>>> 'a' latin: without
>>> 'theism' latin: belief in god(s)
>>>
>>> try websters instead of your own opinion.
>>>
>>
>> Which does not mean it is not a religion.
>>
>>> tell me, what rites, what cerimonies, what traditions do atheists
>>> observe? where do we congregate? what activities do we engage that
>>> resembles anything religious?
>>>
>>
>> Not necessary. You profess a belief in no god. That in itself is a
>> belief.
>>
>
> No. I profess no belief in god.
> That is not a belief.
>
> It is the absence of one.
>

So you profess a belief in no god. A disbelief is also a belief.

> I also profess no belief in leprechauns. Does that make me some kind of
> religious person?
>

Leprechauns are not gods.

> In fact there are thousands of things I do not believe, up to and
> including that GW Bush is the reincarnation of Immelda Markos.
>
> Like my non belief in god, the are simply not worth mentioning.
>
> What religious people do not like at all, is that to an atheist, the
> issue of whether god exists or not is simply irrelevant. Uninteresting
> in the highest degree. Its useless to believe or disbelieve. It has
> little objective effect either way.
>
>

I really don't care one way or the other what you think. Your religious
views are your own. Just don't infringe on my right to believe as I choose.

>
>
>>> as i said, there is no objective evidence that would lead me to
>>> believe that god exists. no more *subjective* evidence for god than
>>> for santa clause or the toothfairy or the boogy man. are you saying
>>> that this critical observation makes me a religious atoothfarian or a
>>> asanta-clausian?
>>>
>>
>> That's fine. It's your opinion and you're welcome to it. But don't
>> try to convince me my opinion is wrong.
>>
>> As for proof - I have no proof you exist. All I see is some text on
>> my screen. It could have been generated by a computer. So by your
>> reasoning, I should not believe you exist. But I have faith that you do.
>>
>
> Thats your problem, not mine.
>

Not a problem at all.

>
>>> 'it won't work'...lol. a lack of belief in something does not a
>>> religion make. specifically, it is the belief *IN* something that
>>> would be the start of religion.
>>>
>>
>> And you have a belief in the lack of a god.
>>
>
> No, simply no belief in its existence. And no need to have or not have
> the belief.

Same idea, different words.


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