Posted by Herb on 09/20/07 00:43

On Sep 19, 8:13 pm, "Shelly" <sheldonlg.n...@asap-consult.com> wrote:
> "Herb" <her...@mail.com> wrote in message
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> > On Sep 19, 7:47 pm, "Shelly" <sheldonlg.n...@asap-consult.com> wrote:
> >> "Jerry Stuckle" <jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote in message
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> >>news:hJednR0Nt97SAmzbnZ2dnUVZ_u7inZ2d@comcast.com...
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> >> > Shelly wrote:
> >> >> You can practice your religion on any PRIVATE property that allows you
> >> >> to
> >> >> do so and you can make any statement you wish in a public place
> >> >> concerning religion -- just not at PUBLICLY paid for events. Those
> >> >> are
> >> >> paid for by people like ME who do not practice YOUR religion.
>
> > so you object to the US funding Israel, do you?
>
> Israel is a country, not a religion.

look up "disingenous", as my reply to your statement above (as if
Israel is a secular state, uh huh)

> I have no problem with the US helping
> any of our allies. I have no problem with helping Israel (mostly Jews),
> France (a half century ago and mostly Catholic), Japan (same time frame and
> mostly Buddhist), India (mostly Hindu), etc., etc. so long as they are
> allies. Are you saying that Israel is not our ally?

Ally? No, our beneficiary. The religion-and-ethnicity-based state of
Israel will pursue it's own interests at every turn, and not ours. I
cab recall Sharon saying just that, during the Lebanon incursion of a
generation ago.

>
> > btw, were you a big fan of Maplethorpe?
>
> I had to look up who Maplethorpe is. The photographs I saw on the net are
> very artistic. Do you have a problem with the beauty of the human body?

hehe... you are funny, Sheldon.

Maplethorpe did mainly homosexual porno, and called it as art. He also
was a terrible anti-Christian bigot.

Now, if anbybody went to the National Endowment for the Arts, and
asked to get money to take pictures of crucifixes, they would have
been figuratively ejected from the building. But Maplethorpe put a
crucifix in a glass of his own urine, and *THAT* was art. It was
publicly supported, too - aka tax dollars.

Such is the natural outgrowth of your arguments, in that religion gets
excluded and suppressed, but anti-Christianity gets endorsed.

It also leads to a godless religion (like secular humanism, which has
evolved into political-correctness) having the ability to become the
established religion.

Are you gay? Is that why you like Maplethorpe's photos?


>
> Shelly

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