Posted by Steve on 09/20/07 05:51

"Herb" <herb_k@mail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sep 19, 8:13 pm, "Shelly" <sheldonlg.n...@asap-consult.com> wrote:
>> "Herb" <her...@mail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1190246181.995323.178430@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > On Sep 19, 7:47 pm, "Shelly" <sheldonlg.n...@asap-consult.com> wrote:
>> >> "Jerry Stuckle" <jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:hJednR0Nt97SAmzbnZ2dnUVZ_u7inZ2d@comcast.com...
>>
>> >> > Shelly wrote:
>> >> >> You can practice your religion on any PRIVATE property that allows
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> do so and you can make any statement you wish in a public place
>> >> >> concerning religion -- just not at PUBLICLY paid for events. Those
>> >> >> are
>> >> >> paid for by people like ME who do not practice YOUR religion.
>>
>> > so you object to the US funding Israel, do you?
>>
>> Israel is a country, not a religion.
>
> look up "disingenous", as my reply to your statement above (as if
> Israel is a secular state, uh huh)
>
>> I have no problem with the US helping
>> any of our allies. I have no problem with helping Israel (mostly Jews),
>> France (a half century ago and mostly Catholic), Japan (same time frame
>> and
>> mostly Buddhist), India (mostly Hindu), etc., etc. so long as they are
>> allies. Are you saying that Israel is not our ally?
>
> Ally? No, our beneficiary. The religion-and-ethnicity-based state of
> Israel will pursue it's own interests at every turn, and not ours. I
> cab recall Sharon saying just that, during the Lebanon incursion of a
> generation ago.
>
>>
>> > btw, were you a big fan of Maplethorpe?
>>
>> I had to look up who Maplethorpe is. The photographs I saw on the net
>> are
>> very artistic. Do you have a problem with the beauty of the human body?
>
> hehe... you are funny, Sheldon.
>
> Maplethorpe did mainly homosexual porno, and called it as art. He also
> was a terrible anti-Christian bigot.
>
> Now, if anbybody went to the National Endowment for the Arts, and
> asked to get money to take pictures of crucifixes, they would have
> been figuratively ejected from the building. But Maplethorpe put a
> crucifix in a glass of his own urine, and *THAT* was art. It was
> publicly supported, too - aka tax dollars.
>
> Such is the natural outgrowth of your arguments, in that religion gets
> excluded and suppressed, but anti-Christianity gets endorsed.
>
> It also leads to a godless religion (like secular humanism, which has
> evolved into political-correctness) having the ability to become the
> established religion.
>
> Are you gay? Is that why you like Maplethorpe's photos?

shelly, i kind of got the feeling that this was one of those kind of
nut-jobs from his first post. now i guess we both know.

loose nut on the keyboard! alert, alert...killfile, killfile.

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