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Posted by Jerry Stuckle on 09/22/07 23:06

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> Sanders Kaufman wrote:
>>>> "Steve" <j80k-vpfc@dea.spamcon.org> wrote in message
>>>> news:memo.20070922111221.5836D@rook.127.0.0.1...
>>>>
>>>>> Basically we're agreeing ;-)
>>>>> In short we are both saying..
>>>>> Got income ? = Get hosting.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is nothing even remotely business orientated on my sites. I'm an
>>>>> electronics engineer. This really is, 'just for kicks' :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> ergo: no income = DIY
>>>>
>>>> Not to just be disagreeable - but that's not what I'm saying.
>>>> I'm saying that if you really want to take the hobby seriously, you
>>>> gotta have pro hosting.
>>>>
>>>> A home server is fine for learning on, but a pro server is where you
>>>> put that learning into practice.
>>>> It's the difference between riding one of those arcade skiing
>>>> machines, and actually skiing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Where does pro hosting start?
>>>
>>>
>>> I've RUN a pro host. Its essentially no different from what I have at
>>> home.
>>>
>>> Sure eventually we RAIDED it and put dual ISP feeds on it..
>>>
>>> But it was earning us over $20,000 a year on just a 256K feed..
>>>
>>> Today I can get that over my phone line EASILY.
>>>
>>> In real terms the likelihood of phone or power outage is low: here
>>> anyway. In fact over the last year my ISP has been down more often
>>> than my computers have. That means I am no worse off.
>>>
>>
>> In the real world, over the last 10 years, my home goes out several
>> times a year. Probably 80% or more are short - 5 minutes or less, and
>> covered by the UPS. The longest was 5 days when the remnants of a
>> hurricane came through. I lose power for an extended period (1 hour
>> or more) about once a year.
>>
>> My cable is out more often; probably once a month or so. Again, most
>> are short. but at least twice a year I lose it for an hour or more.
>> Of course, I don't know if that went down if I'm in bed or not home,
>> so it's probably much more than that.
>>
>>> For many many sites with high content into a niche market, where
>>> traffic is pretty low, home hosting wins hands down, especially if
>>> there is a lot of site development going on.
>>>
>>> OK if one day the traffic gets burdensome and the customer is paying
>>> megabucks, move the machine to someone else's machine room.
>>>
>>> You have to balance all the issues There is no one best solution.
>>
>> Decent hosting costs you less than $50/yr. You'll spend that much
>> keeping a computer running 24/7.
>>
>
> Depends on how many sites are on it, and whether it was doing that anyway.
>
> And how much time it takes you to upload data, and how much it really
> costs you with plenty of storage on it. MY ISP starts to talk real money
> if it's over 30Mbytes. And whether it has the sort of access you want,
> and runs the special code you want.
>
>
>
>

30 megabytes? I'm not talking about your ISP. I'm talking about REAL
web hosting companies - where you can get several gigabytes for under
$50/yr.

And uploading data takes virtually none of my time at all. I just pick
the files to upload and my program does all of them at once, hands off.
Or I can synchronize the sites and let it pick the files which need to
be uploaded.

No problem at all. And I can run pretty much everything I need on a
shared host.

Now if you're getting into heavy use sites, shared hosting won't work
for you. But you wouldn't want to do those on your home PC, either.

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