Posted by Jeremy on 09/28/07 23:31

Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>
> Not if the server is configured correctly (i.e. short tags off).

There is nothing inherently correct about turning on short tags.

>
> Oh Gawd, what a mess.
>

Matter of opinion. It also only happens once per document. I would
rather have "a mess" isolated to one line at the top of a document than
a bunch of ugly code throughout.

>>> might be removed entirely in upcoming versions
>
> Plan on it - it's already been announced they will do it. Just a matter
> of when.

This is incorrect information. The topic has been discussed several
times by the community and it has always been decided that short tags
are staying for the reasons I have already discussed. Mainly, that
conflicting syntax with an entirely separate language is no basis for
removing a language feature. PHP is not XML.

PHP can also be used to generate PHP. What do you propose to do about
long tags then? Answer: escape them. Just like XML declarations ought
to be escaped.

>
> What do you think "deprecated" means?
>

It means that a feature has been officially removed from the language or
API, but is left behind for a time while coders adjust to its absence.
Like I said above, this is not the case for short tags. What do you
think it means?

>
> Fine for you. But you shouldn't be espousing your crap style on others.
>

What do you think "espousing" means? I never told anyone to use short
tags, if that's what you (unsuccessfully) tried to say. I'm just
arguing that anti-shorttagists shouldn't be using incorrect information
and logical fallacies to "espouse[sic] their style on others". I won't
accuse your style of being crap, though, because it's not.

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