Posted by Mark Goodge on 10/06/07 19:10

On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 16:16:54 -0000, Travis Newbury put finger to
keyboard and typed:

>On Oct 5, 4:45 pm, Mark Goodge <use...@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk>
>wrote:
>> >I like pizazz
>> As a website operator, I like making money. I like making money more
>> than I like pizazz. So I'll stick with primarily textual sites.
>
>Making money sometimes requires pizazz. Would you use Flash if it
>made you more money?

Yes, but I have come across no situations where it would. Can you give
examples of Flash-built sites which are primary money earners?

>I work in the Entertainment and Education/Training world. Plain-ol-
>text doesn't cut it there. Flash is currently the most popular method
>for producing educational CBTs and WBTs.

Not in my field. What's your specialisation?

> The reason for this is based
>on the way people learn. Flash is also the fastest growing media
>provider on the web. I think you would be hard pressed to find any
>mainstream entertainment site (TV, Movie, Music, sports including
>personallity sites) that does not take advantage of Flash.

So? No-one is saying there's anything wrong with using Flash
appropriately. Just like there's nothing wring with using jpegs
appropriately. But that doesn't make it appropriate to present a
website as nothing but jpegs, and it doesn't make it appropriate to
present a website as nothing but Flash.

>Also, Flash and accessibility are not mutually exclusive. Neither are
>search engines and Flash. The problem is that most older Flash out
>there was garbage and has given Flash a bad name. Evidence of this is
>the completely silly things people in this forum say about Flash.

Show us a site that is built entirely in Flash and is also accessible
to screen readers and indexable by search engines, then. Just a URL
will do, thanks.

>Most people (experts?) in this group haven't a clue what you can do
>with Flash.

That may possibly be true. Just like it's true that most Flash
designers don't have a clue what you can do with HTML, CSS and maybe
some Javascript thrown in to add interest.

>When ever I hear someone saying how bloated, inaccessible,
>and useless it is, I know they haven't a clue and are either basing
>their opinion on something they remember from years ago, or they just
>mindlessly mimic what every they here the ignorant say about Flash not
>using their own brain at all. (A lot of that here)

So show us something different then. Let's see a website built
entirely in Flash that has a smaller footprint and is more accessible
than it would have been if written using HTML. Your call.

Mark
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