Posted by SpaceGirl on 10/09/07 16:58

Neredbojias wrote:

>> It's got nothing to do with geeks not understanding Users either. The
>> W3C standards and specifications are a compromise between trying to
>> explain what browsers already do and steering them towards a common
>> direction. They are doing a good job.
>
> Oh, ho ho! Here's where we patently disagree. I believe they are doing a
> totally horseshit job - particularly in those areas where they include
> statements something like "...the useragent may determine how it responds
> to this condition by..." When one endeavors to set standards, there is no
> place for ambiguity. In addition, their box model sucks and the whole
> "dom" thing (as now implimented) will in the future be looked upon as some
> quirky digital primeval foible.

That's for sure. They do a good job in... well at least in providing a
reasonable alternative to IE we're in a situation where we are moving
towards standards being rendered "kind of" the same everywhere. But you
are right; the standards themselves are terrible, badly formed, very
hard to understand.

>> There are two main reasons for differences between browsers now: some of
>> them just haven't done all the work yet to meet the specs; and the specs
>> are so complicated (mostly because of all the historical baggage) that
>> in places they aren't always that easy to follow.
>
> Despite the "good job" the w3c is doing?? Gosh!

Yeah kinda crazy. The XHTML1.0 standards have been around since 1999 -
not ONE major browser supports the full spec yet. Not a single one! In
EIGHT years!? So much for standards... They do get 99% of it right, but
it's just... a mess really.

> <quote>"It is a damn nightmare getting a standalone application installed
> on the client side. It is simply much easier to install browser-based
> applications using technology such as Flex than any technology that
> Microsoft has so far come up with. I still have nightmares over failed .Net
> installs that would take out other client applications when trying to
> install our own software in my previous job."</quote>

:)

Or AIR... that looks promising (if it gets pst the whole "who the hell
will install this anyway? hurdle).



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