Posted by Robert Baer on 10/19/07 09:12

Rob Waaijenberg wrote:

> Robert Baer schreef:
>
>> Rob Waaijenberg wrote:
>>
>>> When I tried it, it *was* recognized. At least enough so the
>>> validator could tell me it wasn't valid.
>
>
>> ** Your experience differs from mine.
>> W3C eXplicitly stated that a doctype declaration was not present.
>> And about a year ago, it did not complain regarding the declaration.
>>
>
> That's one of the reasons we don't like to copy/paste.
> If you lead us to an online website there is a remarkably greater chance
> that we see the same warnings and errors.
* NOW, the W3C site does *not* complain about no declaration, and i made
no changes.

>
>>> Didn't you know that there is a special frameset doctype?
>>> You'll find it here:
>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/present/frames.html
>>
>> ** No, i had no idea such "subterfuge" existed or was necessary.
>
>
> A frameset doctype for a frames-page qualifies as subterfuge????
>
>
>> To add to confusion, one source eXplicitlystates that the statement
>> is case sensitive, and that "HTML" must be in lower case.
>> Your reference displays upper case.
>>
>
> Is that capital X above intended or accidental?
* Was intentional, used as a means to make greater emphasis to the
statement.
In my case, XTML is undesirable.

> Because the lower case requirement is true for XHTML. Funny huh?
>
> [snipped]
>
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>> So people tell me; all i know is that a few sites i visit use
>> framesets, that they work.
>
>
> That is not impossible, but there are a lot of pitfalls.
> Please google for "Frames are evil".
* Read some of that; need example of an easy way to do same thing
without frames.

>
>
>> Not knowing sh*t from shinola, i borrowed code from one of those
>> sites and discovered these complaints.
>> If there is a better way, i would need a working example to crib from.
>
>
> I would respectfully suggest that you learn html instead of borrowing
> code. It would make you less dependent on the quality of the borrowed
> code (or, of course, the absence of quality).
>
>
I have too many other things that needs to be done; setting aside
300+ hours for learning HTML code is not an option.

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