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Posted by Jonathan N. Little on 11/06/07 16:00

Chaddy2222 wrote:
> On Nov 7, 2:07 am, Ed Jensen <ejen...@visi.com> wrote:
>> Chaddy2222 <spamlovermailbox-sicur...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>>> If almost everyone is getting their CSS based layouts wrong, something
>>>> is probably wrong with CSS based layout technology in general.
>>> Nah I think you will find it's the designer. My main site at:
>>> http://freewebdesign.awardspace.bizshould re size if the font size is
>>> increased.
>> Yours works correctly. Nice job. :)
>>
> Thanks.
>
>> Of course, all that proves to me is that you're exceptionally good at
>> designing web pages. I don't think it changes my opinion that CSS is
>> somehow too complex (...or something...) since most people get it
>> wrong.
> I think what you perhaps don't realise is that a number of web
> designers are just graphic design hacks!.
> They treat the web like it is one large JPG, they try and fix
> everything in the one spot, kind of like what you would get on a
> printed page.

I can agree with that. It really is not too difficult to design a site
that is flexible for the web, but you do have to design with the
flexible in mind. Many just approach from the wrong direction. They have
the mistaken concept that stylish creative design == pixel-perfect fixed
design.

Part of the problem is folks started (or learned from sites referencing)
a time when the table-hack was the only way to go. Note I said "hack",
because that is just what is was, a hack to extend the limits of HTML in
the emerging field of web design. All the pervasive use that
OS-component-that pretends-to-be-a-web-browser that has such poor and|or
buggy CSS support does not help the situation.

> In other words, they simply do not understand the media they are
> working with.
> It takes a lot of work to get a site to work correctly in a range of
> browsers and browsing environments and some people just plainly fail
> to recognise this.

That's why we get all these requests for "What is the best WYSIWYG
editors?" or "I don't know anything about HTML or CSS (and don't what to
learn) and want to create the best dynamic website, how can I?" That
last one is not an exaggeration. We get posting like it all the time. It
not too difficult to built a simple modest site for a newbie with HTML,
CSS and notepad. It will take some effort! To do large, complicated,
creative sites does require investment in learning the trade. How
ridiculous to think otherwise? It would be like saying "I want to build
a grand home, but I do not know, nor do I want to learn carpentry, how
do I do it?" I would say to both, "Hire someone who does know how"

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Take care,

Jonathan
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