Posted by dorayme on 11/25/07 20:00

In article <Xns99F2EE3D9433Bboneurhyphe@85.214.90.236>,
Bone Ur <monstersquasher@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sat, 24 Nov 2007 20:56:44
> GMT dorayme scribed:
>
> >> It is incredible how we reply "Do this, do that," and you answer
> >> "Okay, I'll do this but I don't wanna do that because it screws up
> >> something else and the site _has_ been working successfully as-is for
> >> over a year..."
> >>
> >> Fishbowl or arrogance - which is it?
> >
> > O come on... OP is doing the best he can, he is trying to take on
> > board things put to him as best as he understands the advice and
> > his situation and business. He has not the same background as
> > some of the regulars here. It is hard for someone coming for
> > advice about one thing and getting drawn into thickets of things
> > which he might be a little hazy on. He needs to tread carefully
> > and preserve what he has worked hard to achieve and go forward in
> > ways that do not present him with even greater unknowns.
>
> See, that's the thing. "Go forward" from what? -A flawed foundation?
> There is no "forward" to go to. It needs to be rebuilt, not patched or
> amended, because the base is wrong.

Funny how you, an earthling, so little understand human
psychology, pride, investment and the general notion of theory
building. No one reasonably competent, if handed the job of
fulfilling some of the basic aims of the OP would start with what
he has. Nearly every site that comes up here would be built from
the ground up by a well versed author. That does not mean that
that is what you can expect - or demand stridently - of an
innocent wanderer into these alleys. It does not mean you should
be mugging them if they don't throw out the lot and start again.

If he says the site has been working successfully for over a
year, then sure, you can challenge that, and if you succeed to
sow doubts, that will start to move him. But charging at him like
a bull is not going to work. It never really does. You are too
star struck by the "bitter salt" theory of being honest with a
student or client. Honesty and straight talking is a simple
minded single string bow in the educational game. It is no magic
bullet. Stop getting all thingy when these bullets you fire
bounce off.

It is simply wrong that a site cannot be rebuilt over time in a
considerably inefficient manner. And you will never see that this
inefficiency has some great advantages for those people who would
learn things slowly over a period of time in a project that is
already sailing at sea. You are demanding the ship be sunk or be
dry docked and completely rebuilt, and few merchant ship owners
will come at that.

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dorayme

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