Posted by Bone Ur on 11/26/07 00:38

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:00:17
GMT dorayme scribed:

>> See, that's the thing. "Go forward" from what? -A flawed foundation?
>> There is no "forward" to go to. It needs to be rebuilt, not patched
>> or amended, because the base is wrong.
>
> Funny how you, an earthling, so little understand human
> psychology, pride, investment and the general notion of theory
> building. No one reasonably competent, if handed the job of
> fulfilling some of the basic aims of the OP would start with what
> he has.

So far we agree. But there are 3 of them. Are they all incompetent?

> Nearly every site that comes up here would be built from
> the ground up by a well versed author. That does not mean that
> that is what you can expect - or demand stridently - of an
> innocent wanderer into these alleys. It does not mean you should
> be mugging them if they don't throw out the lot and start again.

So you equate "mugging" with expressing an honest opinion. Would it be
preferable if I lied, even a little bit, just to keep junior from whining
for mommy? I may have been blunt and forthright, but I wasn't abusive
and didn't resort to name-calling like some people we know...

> If he says the site has been working successfully for over a
> year, then sure, you can challenge that, and if you succeed to
> sow doubts, that will start to move him. But charging at him like
> a bull is not going to work. It never really does. You are too
> star struck by the "bitter salt" theory of being honest with a
> student or client. Honesty and straight talking is a simple
> minded single string bow in the educational game. It is no magic
> bullet. Stop getting all thingy when these bullets you fire
> bounce off.

Well, I just might try to "stop getting all thingy" if I knew what
"thingy" was. Nevertheless, if an ingenue cannot tolerate honesty, I can
hardly feel sorry for him.

> It is simply wrong that a site cannot be rebuilt over time in a
> considerably inefficient manner. And you will never see that this
> inefficiency has some great advantages for those people who would
> learn things slowly over a period of time in a project that is
> already sailing at sea. You are demanding the ship be sunk or be
> dry docked and completely rebuilt, and few merchant ship owners
> will come at that.

The site should be rebuilt, yes, but I wasn't demanding it. What I was
"demanding" was valid code in the form of not putting something outside
the body tag. _That_ was the "demand", so to speak, and I remain
righteously adamant in reiterating it.

As a side note, I think you were more fun when you were dingbatty. Now
your posts make me yawn alot and daydream about the sweet potato farm in
Kuala Lumpur.

--
Bone Ur
Cavemen have formidable pheromones.

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