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Posted by Simon Shaw on 11/29/07 23:18

On Nov 29, 11:23 am, taps128 <nstje...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Simon Shaw wrote:
> > I am that rare point in a developers career where I am starting a new
> > web based project and I have a 4-8 week slot to train myself in the
> > most appropriate technology for this task. As a non-web based C#/C++
> > programmer with over 14 years of experience this means that although I
> > have a sound understanding of the software development, design and
> > implementation, I am probably going to have to learn a new language/
> > framework from scratch (if I am going to be honest this is one of the
> > main attractions for me). My goals for the project are as follows:
> > 1) Highly scalable web site (millions of hits a day)
> > 2) Backend database probably with shards. Static data store for
> > uploaded media files. Flex2 (or equivalent) front end.
> > 3) Team of 3 programmers (including myself).
> > 4) After initial period for learning technology, short amount of time
> > (2-3 months) to get to proof of concept.
>
> > My initial technology research pointed to PHP, however lately I have
> > noticed a growing interest in Grails.
> > Has anybody in this group had any experience developing in Grails? Is
> > it a stable platform? Is something about PHP inherently superior to
> > Grails? If I want to attract the coolest software engineers to my
> > project which would be more attractive Grails or PHP?
>
> I know this is a php group, but why not give Python/Django a chance. It
> was developed by a group of php developers, it's easy to use, fast and
> flexible. And i think it can cover all your requirements. It's well
> documented, and has a very active user group. For an experienced
> programmer, who doesn't know python, it will take you a week or two to
> learn everything to know how to build an Django web app.
> On the other side if you stick with PHP you have a pretty wide range of
> chices. For a very serius framework I'll reccomend you PostNuke , which
> is currently entering it eight version (don't be mistaken by its cms
> description, you can develop in it everything you want. ). Or you can
> use CakePHP or Symphone. I've heard good things about them, but I
> haven't worked in them, so I can't tell you much.
> I you don't find a framework you like, you could build your system from
> scratch. There are a lot of open source application components out
> there. I strongly suggest you use a template engine, it will make your
> life easier (don't write html code and php code mashed up together),
> Smarty is the way to go these days.
> Hope that helps.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Thanks for your very interesting response.
Do you have any examples of large sites that have been written using
Django/Python?
Are the framework suggestions you make for Django/Python or PHP?

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