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Posted by dorayme on 12/08/07 23:20
In article <qYs6j.262790$%J7.143002@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi>,
"Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> wrote:
> Scripsit dorayme:
>
> > In article <13lk24lbuu3trd4@corp.supernews.com>,
> > mbstevens <NOXwebmasterx@xmbstevensx.com> wrote:
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> >> Validaton by the HTML validator
> >> is about well formedness only, without a model (interpretation).
> >
> > Right.
>
> Wrong.
>
> Before digging yourselves deeper into a hole of confusion, consider
> learning what (markup) validation is, before writing treatises on it.
>
What treatises on it? I hardly even addressed the question of
html validation. It was a mere aside to a remark put by another
(which I suspect you have misunderstood by an unreasonably strict
assessment of the nature of the remark itself and of the
context).
The remark by mb meant something to him and to me. It being an
aside, it was not going to be explored in detail. It was accurate
enough for the purpose at hand, OT as it may be. But your ears
are finely programmed to catch anything said that, taken quite
literally, in a context of your own choosing, is not strictly
correct.
A difference was being pointed out between two quite different
contexts. For me at least, there is but an analogy between html
validation and the validation of an ordinary language argument.
In the one case, a machine can do it, in the other a machine
can't really do it well. The reason that a machine can do it well
in the one case is that it has clear cut rules to fail stuff like:
<p This is a paragraph. Not! <p/
<p This is a paragraph. Not! <p/
And what is meant by mb, with some reasonableness, is that
validator looks to see how various text is formed, there are
rules for when something is well formed.
> Both "valid" and "well-formed" are strictly defined terms, and quite
> different from each other.
Why not take the opportunity to make a summary of these in a
relatively easy to fathom form for the benefit of those who would
appreciate a hand in this matter?
--
dorayme
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