Posted by Steve on 12/19/07 15:05

"Onideus Mad Hatter" <usenet@backwater-productions.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:25:48 +1030, Michael
> <michael_j@pythontech.net.au> wrote:
>
>>Chilly8 wrote:
>>> "Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote in message
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>>>
>>>
>>>>> It appears that by simply blocking incoming traffic from the networks
>>>>> of three data centers around the world has stopped it. I have only see
>>>>> one "phony" registration all day, coming from China. Blocking all
>>>>> traffic from inHoster in Ukraine, Keymachine in Germany, and
>>>>> FDC servers in Chicago has pretty much stopped the porn bots.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> For now. But how many legitimate users might you be blocking, also?
>>>>
>>>> Blocking an entire range of addresses is almost never the right answer.
>>>> Just the expedient one.
>>>
>>>
>>> I doubt I would be blocking any legitimate users, as those sites I
>>> mentioned
>>> are all server colocation facilities. It appears that somoene has
>>> compromised
>>> all the machines at least two of those server farms. It might be
>>> possible
>>> that
>>> some users, trying to use a proxy from work to acoid detection by the
>>> boss, might be affected by blocking FDC servers, since a couple of
>>> popular anonymity services use FDC for their server needs, but
>>> beyond that, I don't think many legitimate users will be affected, but
>>> there really is no other answer to the problem.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>With your logic, why don't you block the entire internet... you know,
>>seeing a majority of spam comes from the internet and all.
>>
>>Granted this is where your spam is coming from RIGHT NOW, it wont be in
>>a few weeks time. But thats okay, you will just block those IPs as well!
>> When you have thousands of blocked IP ranges, are you going to
>>periodically check them, to see if they have been re-allocated to some
>>poor ISP?
>>
>>It is your site, but you should really consider other options.
>>
>> - Michael
>
> Well, I for one don't really give a fuck. I mean if he wants to cut
> off his nose to spite his face...let him. Further if you and he are
> ever applying for a job and the interviewer asks for examples of sites
> you've done that employ spam prevention techniques...guess which one
> of you is gonna get the job?

dude, jerry teaches. that means his job is not dependant on first-hand
knowledge of the pitfalls of making bad decisions. he gets to research and
reherse what he's going to say (theoretically) works. he's probably a good
teacher. as for pragmatism and solutions that require inventiveness, he's
not your guy. i doubt he will ever enter the cut-throught world of
consulting again...outside of teaching. that's despite the fact that he is a
competent developer.

> And really, in his case, I don't think it's a matter of him "not
> liking" catcha images so much as he simply has no level of skill and
> therefore does not comprehend how to even setup such a system
> (especially not with whatever prefab cookie cutter piece of shit
> Webbie board he's ripped off). He probably could have gotten better
> help (as far as his actual situation) if he told everyone right from
> the start that he had no coding ability and was simply using a
> template jobbie.

again, omh, having said all those harsh things about jerry...i am still
convenced that the league he's in and the league you're in are seperated by
light-years. in fact, your skill level is demonstratively lower than than a
person, having no computer skills at all, perusing barnes and noble and just
picked up a 'beginning php' book to gloss over it...and not just for the
simple fact that he can read it.

and as for your 6% of the visitors to your site, it's sad. 100% of the
visitors to your site are the imaginary entities in your head...and you've
got disention in the ranks. ROFL.

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