Posted by Radio Man on 12/28/07 03:50

On Dec 28, 12:48 pm, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote:
> Radio Man wrote:
> > On Dec 28, 1:01 am, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote:
> >> Steve wrote:
> >>> "Onideus Mad Hatter" <use...@backwater-productions.net> wrote in message
> >>>news:tqvcl3t38ndk471vucmckqe69anu2nh0aq@4ax.com...
> >>>> On Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:25:48 +1030, Michael
> >>>> <michae...@pythontech.net.au> wrote:
> >>>>> Chilly8 wrote:
> >>>>>> "Jerry Stuckle" <jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote in message
> >>>>>>news:0v2dnWmDBPFamsvanZ2dnUVZ_j-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >>>>>>>> It appears that by simply blocking incoming traffic from the networks
> >>>>>>>> of three data centers around the world has stopped it. I have only see
> >>>>>>>> one "phony" registration all day, coming from China. Blocking all
> >>>>>>>> traffic from inHoster in Ukraine, Keymachine in Germany, and
> >>>>>>>> FDC servers in Chicago has pretty much stopped the porn bots.
> >>>>>>> For now.  But how many legitimate users might you be blocking, also?
> >>>>>>> Blocking an entire range of addresses is almost never the right answer.
> >>>>>>> Just the expedient one.
> >>>>>> I doubt I would be blocking any legitimate users, as those sites I
> >>>>>> mentioned
> >>>>>> are all server colocation facilities. It appears that somoene has
> >>>>>> compromised
> >>>>>> all the machines at least two of those server farms. It might be
> >>>>>> possible
> >>>>>> that
> >>>>>> some users, trying to use a proxy from work to acoid detection by the
> >>>>>> boss, might be  affected by blocking FDC servers, since a couple of
> >>>>>> popular anonymity services use  FDC for their server needs, but
> >>>>>> beyond that, I don't think many legitimate users will be affected, but
> >>>>>> there really is no other answer to the problem.
> >>>>> With your logic, why don't you block the entire internet... you know,
> >>>>> seeing a majority of spam comes from the internet and all.
> >>>>> Granted this is where your spam is coming from RIGHT NOW, it wont be in
> >>>>> a few weeks time. But thats okay, you will just block those IPs as well!
> >>>>>  When you have thousands of blocked IP ranges, are you going to
> >>>>> periodically check them, to see if they have been re-allocated to some
> >>>>> poor ISP?
> >>>>> It is your site, but you should really consider other options.
> >>>>>  - Michael
> >>>> Well, I for one don't really give a fuck.  I mean if he wants to cut
> >>>> off his nose to spite his face...let him.  Further if you and he are
> >>>> ever applying for a job and the interviewer asks for examples of sites
> >>>> you've done that employ spam prevention techniques...guess which one
> >>>> of you is gonna get the job?
> >>> dude, jerry teaches. that means his job is not dependant on first-hand
> >>> knowledge of the pitfalls of making bad decisions. he gets to research and
> >>> reherse what he's going to say (theoretically) works. he's probably a good
> >>> teacher. as for pragmatism and solutions that require inventiveness, he's
> >>> not your guy. i doubt he will ever enter the cut-throught world of
> >>> consulting again...outside of teaching. that's despite the fact that he is a
> >>> competent developer.
> >> ROFLMAO!  Try again, troll.  I do more programming in a week than you do
> >> in a year.
>
> > You have been saying that for a while. Have you got an example that we
> > can view.
> > --
> > Regards Chad.http://freewebdesignonline.org
>
> Well, Stevie has never proven he's a programmer.  He's just a poor,
> unwanted person hiding behind an alias and is deathly afraid someone
> will find out who he really is.
>
> And if he were a programmer, he would know better than to post some of
> the wild comments he does here.  That right there makes it obvious he
> doesn't know any thing about programming.
Oh you were talking about that guy. Yeah your probably right about
that.
I agree that it's pointless to block the IP's though as it's time
consumeing.

>
> I've never seen anything correct from him that can't be found on
> hundreds of websites, and lots of incorrect junk - like PHP only runs as
> a CGI under IIS, you can do post redirects in PHP, and he can steal PHP
> sessions.  These are all comments made in the last two to three weeks,
> and just the tip of the iceberg.
>
> That says it all.
>
--
Regards Chad. http://freewebdesignonline.org

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