Posted by Vince Morgan on 12/28/07 09:07

"groovyd" <google@groovydomain.com> wrote in message
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> everyone keeps telling me that frames are dead and so i feel the need
> to finally rewrite my 'dead' site (www.groovydomain.com) so that it
> doesn't use them by somehow crafting some slick CSS that the same
> everyones are telling me is the new 'fashionable' way.
>
> the problem is everytime i try i get something that almost works on IE
> but not firefox or vice-versa. it seems that browsers have not yet
> standardized on alot of the CSS stuff. and even in the best cases i
> just cannot seem to get the same behavior as the site has using the
> frames. I have spent days trying all sorts of hackery to no success
> and in any case it all looks hopelessly more complex and convoluted
> then the code does using frames. The goal is not to change the look
> or behavior of the site at all other then just replacing the <frames>
> definitions with some CSS and the minimal # of DIVs. (ie. when
> scrolling the main frame i dont want to scroll the menu or the logo.
> also the words should wrap when someone resizes their window so you
> can still read the story without having to scroll left and right.)
>
> Words of wisdom anyone?
I am currently redesigning a site that has been using frames similar to your
own. http://www.labtek.com.au
The new site is in the process of contruction and as such not all links etc
are complete, however it is meant to emulate frames to some extent and could
be of interest to you. http://www.labtek.com.au/newsite/main.php
If you pull up the source you will notice there are some conditional links
below the </style> tag to handle a couple of IE nonconformances. This
appears to be a reasonable way to handle them, and your code will still
validate. By the way, the validation links below don't work currently as I
have changed the path since they were added. Well, not the css one anyway.
Please don't tell me some things aren't working, I already know : )
HTH
Vince

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