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Posted by patrick j on 12/30/07 21:15

On Dec 30, 2007 cwdjrxyz wrote:

> On Dec 29, 8:23 pm, patrick j <usemywebs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> I'm trying to get a QuickTime movie to work in various browsers which is in
>> a very simple web-page.
>>
>> Below is the code I'm using to embed the movie.
>>
>> <object classid="clsid:02BF25D5-8C17-4B23-BC80-D3488ABDDC6B"
>> codebase="http://www.apple.com/qtactivex/qtplugin.cab" height="576"
>> width="1024">
>> <param name="src" value="citizen_kane.mov">
>> <param name="autoplay" value="false">
>> <param name="controller" value="true">
>> <embed height="592" width="1024" src="citizen_kane.mov"
>> pluginspage="http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/"
>> type="video/quicktime" controller="true" autoplay="false">
>> </object>
>>
>> It works very well in Safari but not in FireFox, nor in iCab or Camino or
>> IE 7.
>>
>> I'm wondering what the problem might be?
>
> Is the .mov hinted? If not, it will not start playing until completely
> downloaded, which could be quite a while if the download is not very
> fast, because .mov files tend to be fairly large in many cases. If you
> encode with many encoders, the .mov resulting is not hinted. If you
> have the pay/pro version of the QT player, it is easy to hint a .mov.
> You just open your .mov in QT Pro and then store it somewhere else
> with a slightly different name. The stored .mov file then will be
> hinted( have data to make the .mov stream before download is
> complete). All embedded .mov files, except very short ones, should be
> hinted before being embedded on a web page.

Hi

First thank you for your assistance.

I've tried re-saving using QuickTime Pro but this doesn't make any
difference. The movie has been exported from Final Cut Pro using
Compressor.

However it is good that at this point I mention that the movie is not going
onto a server to be downloaded. It is at present on a hard-drive in my
house and the very simple HTML page is right beside it.

The intention is to burn the movie to a DVD along with the HTML page. The
HTML page is a simple "wrapper" for the movie. This is what has been
required of me.

The movie is 4.35 GB if not optimised for streaming and 3.5 GB if
optimised.

>
> The object code you use often is used, but it is invalid because it
> contains embed which has never been a W3C tag. There may or may not be
> something else wrong with the code that causes it not to work(if it
> truly does not work after a long wait when the .mov is not hinted).
>
> Here is how I embed a .mov. Go to my page at
> http://www.cwdjr.info/video_extreme/cancanMOV.php
> . This works for me on IE6 and the latest versions of Firefox,
> Seamonkey, Safari for Windows, and Opera.

I have copied your page and have it sitting next to my QuickTime file. I've
changed relevant bits so it is pointed to my QuickTime file. However it
behaves exactly as my original page does, it works very well in Safari but
not in Firefox or iCab etc.

I haven't tried it with IE yet but my priority is to get it working with
Firefox.

The place that it is going is a mostly Firefox using place. I know they do
have Safari but I don't want to have to say "it will only work in Safari"
:)

I'm not that concerned about IE but I will use your conditional comments
for that. I like using conditional comments for IE for the reasons you've
stated.

Also I like the fact that your code validates :)

Now I just have to sort out why it is only working with Safari :(

It must be something to do with the situation.

It is very strange.


--
Patrick - Brighton, UK
If you wish email me from my web-site: <http://www.patrickjames.me.uk>

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