Posted by Jerry Stuckle on 01/02/08 03:33

Aaron Gray wrote:
> "Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote in message
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>> Aaron Gray wrote:
>>> "Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote in message
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>>>> Aaron Gray wrote:
>>>>> "Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:65-dnQNSmtoCaefanZ2dnUVZ_r-vnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>> Aaron Gray wrote:
>>>>>>> "Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:m_Wdnblb4PlxcufanZ2dnUVZ_gWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>>>> Aaron Gray wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "Rik Wasmus" <luiheidsgoeroe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:op.t392n4xa5bnjuv@metallium.lan...
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 01:50:20 +0100, Aaron Gray
>>>>>>>>> <ang.usenet@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have a MySQL table of pages each with a 'title' and 'page'
>>>>>>>>>> fields.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How do I do either an UPDATE if the pages 'title' exists or an
>>>>>>>>>> INSERT if it
>>>>>>>>>> does not ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The code I have written does not seem to do the job correctly.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> $result = mysql_query( "SELECT page FROM pages WHERE title =
>>>>>>>>>> '" . $title
>>>>>>>>>> . "';");
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> $row = mysql_fetch_array( $result, MYSQL_ASSOC);
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> if ( isset( $row["title"]) && $row[title] == $title)
>>>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>>>> $result = mysql_query( "UPDATE pages SET page = '". $page
>>>>>>>>>> . "' WHERE
>>>>>>>>>> title = '" .$title . "';");
>>>>>>>>>> if ($result)
>>>>>>>>>> mysql_query( "COMMIT;");
>>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>>> else
>>>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>>>> $result = mysql_query( "INSERT INTO pages SET title ='" .
>>>>>>>>>> $title .
>>>>>>>>>> "', page = '" . $page . "';");
>>>>>>>>>> if ($result)
>>>>>>>>>> mysql_query( "COMMIT;");
>>>>>>>>>> };
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This code is buggy and doing an insert rather than an update. How
>>>>>>>>>> would you
>>>>>>>>>> approach this task ?
>>>>>>>>> It could be done with one easy query, look into ON DUPLICATE
>>>>>>>>> KEY UPDATE
>>>>>>>>> syntax, ask in comp.databases.mysql
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I need to keep the logic in PHP rather than using SQL.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Aaron
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why? SQL is the correct place to handle this.
>>>>>>> I need to know whether I have a new page or not and I need
>>>>>>> concurrency in the PHP to know whether a page is already being
>>>>>>> editted and I need to keep a log of transactions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK, if you need to find out if you have a new page or not, you've got
>>>>>> to query the database to see if it exists. But you've also got to be
>>>>>> careful, because someone could insert the same page between the time
>>>>>> you query and the time you insert. Sure, it's a small period of time,
>>>>>> but it can still happen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And you can't tell for sure if a page is being edited or not. All you
>>>>>> can really tell is if it has been edited.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At this stage in my apps life, prototype phase I prefer to keep this
>>>>>>> llogic in the PHP code.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Aaron
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's doing it the hard way. Use the tools available to you.
>>>>> Also for the intended applications programmers who are users of my app
>>>>> generally do not know SQL but can program in an average programming
>>>>> language.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to look at and learn the SQL but not now. I really want to
>>>>> keep this thing simple at the moment and SQL is not simple compared to
>>>>> PHP.
>>>>>
>>>>> Aaron
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> SQL is much simpler than PHP!
>>> Its neater and more integral, but I would not say its simpler :)
>>>
>>> Aaron
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Definitely much simpler. A very limited command set with limited options.
>> We teach SQL in about a day and a half, as part of our database courses.
>> PHP alone is 5 days - and I wish we had more time.
>>
>> If you're going to be using relational databases, you need to learn SQL.
>>
>> But your users don't need to use SQL. I have several sites which use SQL
>> databases. And none of my customers have to write a single line of SQL.
>
> I am working on an open framework for use by other programmers, end users of
> the product will not need internal knowledge but application programmers
> will.
>
> Proper relational database programming cannot be taught in less than a week,
> more like a year if you want to follow Codd.
>
> Aaron
>
>
>

Sorry, been doing this for over 17 years now. Corporate training is
much different than university courses - and VERY intensive. As I said
- we teach PHP in a week. The same for Java, C, C++ and other
languages. SQL is at most a day and a half. An entire MySQL course is
only 5 days (same with other databases).

I'm not saying the programmers are experts coming out of the course -
but they are knowledgeable to be productive. The rest comes with
experience.

You don't know what real training is until you've taken a corporate
training course!

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