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 Posted by Aaron Saray on 01/08/08 00:31 
On Jan 7, 4:25 am, "jonKush...@gmail.com" <jonKush...@gmail.com> 
wrote: 
> On Jan 7, 1:52 am, Michael Fesser <neti...@gmx.de> wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> > .oO(jonKush...@gmail.com) 
> 
> > >On Jan 5, 5:52 am, "R.A.M." <r_ahims...@poczta.onet.pl> wrote: 
> > >> Hello, 
> > >> I have started learning PHP5. I would like to programme in Windows XP and 
> > >> Fedora Linux. I have found two IDEs for PHP (if I understood correctly): 
> > >> - Eclipse PDT, 
> > >> - EasyEclipse for PHP. 
> > >> What is the difference? Which one to choose? I would like to debug my 
> > >> applications. 
> > >> Please help. Thanks in advance. 
> > >> /RAM/ 
> 
> > >Ugh. Eclipse for PHP in general is garbage. 
> 
> > You want to elaborate on that. 
> 
> > >I definitely recommend 
> > >never even touching its extended wamp functionalities. If you cant get 
> > >your hands on a zend studio, I would definitely recommend notepad++ 
> > >with the debugger plugin. 
> 
> > >Eclipse - and PHP - just don't mix. 
> 
> > I'm using Eclipse/PDT and it works very well. Better than anything else 
> > I've tried before. 
> 
> > Micha 
> 
> After reading at my message, I could see where my negative message 
> without explanation could be offensive, so let me make myself clear. I 
> used Eclipse exclusively for Java for an extremely long time.. It is, 
> and will always be, the landmark of java programming studios. With 
> PHP, however, I never quite got the same experience.  Despite the fact 
> that eclipse just did not support all of the great functions it had 
> for java / c++ development, the bundle itself is decent yes. 
> Autocompletion, php doc, snippets, etc. all worked fine for the most 
> part. My main issue was that the eclipse app itself could not operate 
> with the PHP platform. I couldn't begin to tell you the laundry list 
> of options I tried to get eclipse working. It could have been the java 
> version, but I doubt it because I was also using the application for 
> java work. I really did love eclipse - We were huge supporters of the 
> application at UF ( we should still be on the servers list of 
> downloads ), but it just never seemed to work smoothly. So, with that 
> EXTREMELY hindering my viewpoint, it only went downhill. Xampp 
> combined with the internal browser tool just caused me to kill the 
> process time after time. 
> 
> So, once again I am sorry if I came off in a negative manner. I am 
> sure it works great for others, as I know that wonderful eclipse 
> feeling you get. It's just - eclipse with PHP for me was more 
> obtrusive than helpful. 
 
Maybe you'd like to post a thread on the issues you were having?  I've 
installed it on multiple Windows boxes (but only one linux machine) 
including the debugging features.  I think there were a lot of 
confusion over which instance of the 'server' was running in eclipse 
with some of our newer coders. 
 
At any rate, thanks for your clarification on your statement.
 
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