Posted by Steve on 01/09/08 14:46

"Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote in message
news:XI6dneI2J-_vUxnanZ2dnUVZ_rCtnZ2d@comcast.com...

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i'm done going tit-for-tat with you. when i use the term 'hire', i'm talking
about contracting a consultant or accepting a person as an fte. i 'hire'
consultants all the time...you should have noted that when i used that
phrase, i also used very specific terms describing how a contract can be
written. further, you should note that not all consultants are with a firm
or temp agency. personally, i've never had to use either and could charge
more with less experience than if i had.

when i 'hire' consultants, which most of ours are independents who don't
want to consult as a career, i look them over as potential employees. again,
the 'looking them over' doesn't magically strip 'consultant' from the work
that they do and the contract they bear. people are lined up to work with my
company. their foot in that door is to try and get work, any programming
work, and happily sign contracts as consultants...hoping we look them over
and say, 'would you be interested...'

as for the contracts, i create all kinds of contracts. you've only described
on kind. a contract with a company who provides an individual at x amount
for x length of time. again, that is short-sighted and probably 'real world'
only applies with the contracts with which you are familiar given your
'teaching' gig. as it is, you can also contract by project as well as by the
hour, add in incentives/penalties, work with a company or an individual.

how ever you look at that, the discussion is about how one gets work more
than if they are wanting to consult or whether they want fte. either way, i
put experience on a level playing field when i hire either a consultant or
an employee based on what *i* need. sometimes, yes, that's a block of time
through a company, but sometimes it's by project, sometimes it's merely to
screen for potential employees...and especially in those cases, we usually
could care less if they know how to program - they are a shoe-in if they
know our industry or our company or it's processes.

the op has a lot to think about, so i don't think any further deliberation
on this does anyone any good.

EOT

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