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Posted by Jensen Somers on 01/19/08 16:51

Hello,

alexander.petrov@abv.bg wrote:
> Thanks for the comments. Konqueror has never been tested as it has
> very small market share, less than 0.1%. Browsers that have been
> tested are:
> - Internet Explorer 6, 7
> - Firefox 1.0, 1.5, 2.0
> - Mozilla 1.0, 1.5, 2.0
> - Opera 7.50, 8.0, 8.50, 9.0, 9.20
> - Safari 3.0.4
> - Avant Browser 10.2, 11.5
> - Maxthon 1.5, 1.6, 2.0
> - SeaMonkey 1.1.7
>

As stated before, first make sure your code is valid, then take into
account changes needed by the various web browsers.

>
> Although there are zillions of frameworks out there, there are very
> few worth mentioning. I hope to qualify in Top 10, although may be too
> late. ASP.NET-like frameworks are also very few, and there are pros
> and cons to offer such a thing to the LAMP community. Such frameworks
> really simplify the development and the maintenance, but the community
> may dislike everything that comes from MS even as ideas.
>
> Although QPHP.NET has 3 years of internal experience and is very well
> tested, I published it as version 0.9 and hope by the time reaching
> 1.0 to become pretty good framework not only for our commercial
> projects, but for the PHP community as well. Basically with this post
> I am trying to figure out what features are considered valuable and to
> put it in the next versions.
>
> Full XHTML support will be added in the next version, Yahoo and Google
> sites are still not XHTML based and I guess there are reasons for
> that, so this feature won't bring too much value to the framework at
> this time.

Most "large" websites - such as Google and Yahoo - don't really care
about web standards. Their purpose is to provide a nice looking and
easily maintainable website. Writing valid XHTML and CSS that works on
every browser is time consuming and that is one thing most companies
don't have or don't want to spend on a website. As long as it works,
it's OK.
One of my previous jobs was with a web development company and they had
their own internal developed framework created before XHTML was
available. Upgrading took too much time and internal work does not pay
the bills. Today they are still not producing XHTML valid websites.

If you want to provide a good framework you must realize that most users
will be amateur or professional web designers and developers who do want
XHTML and CSS valid websites because it makes their portfolio look so
much nicer. The are working independently and don't have to worry to
much about the time they have to complete a project.
From my experience and corresponding with other web developers I
noticed most of them use either custom build frameworks or things like
Drupal or Textpattern because they are great frameworks that provide
quality code.

- Jensen

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