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Posted by Ben C on 01/21/08 22:18
On 2008-01-21, dorayme <doraymeRidThis@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> In article <ndadnYU7oaHTkAjaRVnyjwA@bt.com>,
> "Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org>
> wrote:
>
>> "Neredbojias" <monstersquasher@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9A2C8E8EB5DCCnanopandaneredbojias@194.177.96.78...
>> >
>> >> For example, I cannot see how The Guardian news site would be as clear
>> >> when using liquid layouts. www.guardian.co.uk
>> >
>> > Actually, the site is somewhat successfully liquid via javascript. This
>> > demonstrates that the site _could have_ been completely liquid had the
>> > creator been less inept.
>>
>> Inept? I'd have to disregard what else you've said in that case. That site
>> is often used as an example of good design in the UK. Could you find a
>> better designed news site? I really doubt it. Making that site with a
>> liquid layout would bring a lot of formatting problems to the people making
>> the content. It'd just be a mess.
>>
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>
> OK lets look at a typical page:
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><http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,2244122,00.html>
You're right that is a typical page, and they've been like that for
years. They recently (a few months ago) redid the main front page and
some other bits, which is more likely to be what the OP is saying is an
example of good design.
> It uses a transitional doctype. Perhaps this is ok. Some people
> will wonder what it is transitioning from. But still it has lots
> of errors. I saw a count above 80.
It's awful. The way they've done those headings ("Home", "UK", etc.)
across the top is particularly horrific.
One table nested inside another, for no apparent reason, all in a center
element. The inner table is set to 'width="1"' so any heading with
spaces in it has them substituted with .
Lots of missing tags and tags in the wrong places.
[...]
> Not saying the site is incompetent. It is not.
It's very old and perhaps some of the bizarre ways of doing things in
there are there because they were the only things that "worked" in those
days.
No excuse for the broken tag structure though.
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