Posted by Jeff on 01/25/08 17:07

Neredbojias wrote:
> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Fri, 25 Jan 2008 04:23:20
> GMT Jeff scribed:
>
>>>>> SAZ wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> A lesson in this business that I learned a long time ago - do what
>>>>>> the customer wants, no matter how stupid it seems. Why give the
>>>>>> work (and money) to someone else?
>>>>> Because that isn't the only consideration in the world?
>>>>>
>>>> You can be as self-righteous as you want. You can advise against
>>>> something all day, but if the client wants it and it's legal, give it
>>>> to him or be prepared to lose the business.
>>> There is no disagreement with that statement. The discussion is about
>>> whether to do it regardless for other reasons, and legal is not always
>>> ethical or just.
>>>
>>>> Anyone who has any kind of business sense knows that it's cheaper and
>>>> easier to keep a customer than find a new one.
>>> How profound. But how cheap do you sell yourself to keep that
> customer?
>> Just how high and mighty do you think you are?
>
> 5'8", 155lbs. of pure piss-powered man-meat. Hell, I could tie
> Schwarzeneggar in a knot before he had time to move if I hit him below
> the belt.

6'6" 225lbs.
>
>> This whole thread is about background music on one of the pages of one
>> of my clients.
>
> Not exactly, but in any case my reply was to a message about giving the
> client what he wants.

No, you were proselytizing when it was specifically requested that you
stay on the sidelines unless you had something technical to contribute.
>
>> That's a little cheesy, but it hardly means I've sold
>> myself cheaply. Now, I've listened to that music I resisted, and I've
>> come to the conclusion that if it makes my client and her visitors
>> happy (it's a metaphysical type site) than why not.
>
> Because as I implied and Harlan Messinger stated more directly, there are
> other considerations. However, it doesn't mean you "sold yourself
> cheaply", either. I was speaking in general terms with that.

Just leave it be. Does this always have to degenerate into
personality conflicts?
>
>> Why should she, her
>> clients, or myself care if you want to throw a righteous hissy fit.
>
> Perhaps one or more of them are members of Hissy Fittists Anonymous. Who
> knows?

Call it what you may. But don't you see how this drives people away
from an html group when they get more attitude than answers? All the
longest threads are like that. We all know where each other is coming
from, it's not like we're covering new ground.

There's a few authoring and design issues I'd like to discuss, but it's
hard breaking any new ground when you are treated like a heretic. I'd
rather save the energy.

Perhaps I just don't have the patience for this anymore.

Jeff
>

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