Posted by Neredbojias on 01/25/08 20:28

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:07:39
GMT Jeff scribed:

>>>>> You can be as self-righteous as you want. You can advise against
>>>>> something all day, but if the client wants it and it's legal, give
>>>>> it to him or be prepared to lose the business.
>>>> There is no disagreement with that statement. The discussion is
>>>> about whether to do it regardless for other reasons, and legal is
>>>> not always ethical or just.
>>>>
>>>>> Anyone who has any kind of business sense knows that it's cheaper
>>>>> and easier to keep a customer than find a new one.
>>>> How profound. But how cheap do you sell yourself to keep that
>> customer?
>>> Just how high and mighty do you think you are?
>>
>> 5'8", 155lbs. of pure piss-powered man-meat. Hell, I could tie
>> Schwarzeneggar in a knot before he had time to move if I hit him
>> below the belt.
>
> 6'6" 225lbs.

Ho, a big 'un! How's the weather up thare?

>>> This whole thread is about background music on one of the pages of
>>> one of my clients.
>>
>> Not exactly, but in any case my reply was to a message about giving
>> the client what he wants.
>
> No, you were proselytizing when it was specifically requested that
> you
> stay on the sidelines unless you had something technical to
> contribute.

Proselytizing isn't illegal, and in this case, my client (me) wanted to
do it. Furthermore, professing one's beliefs isn't detrimental to
humanity when those beliefs are true and valid.

>>> That's a little cheesy, but it hardly means I've sold
>>> myself cheaply. Now, I've listened to that music I resisted, and
>>> I've come to the conclusion that if it makes my client and her
>>> visitors happy (it's a metaphysical type site) than why not.
>>
>> Because as I implied and Harlan Messinger stated more directly, there
>> are other considerations. However, it doesn't mean you "sold
>> yourself cheaply", either. I was speaking in general terms with
>> that.
>
> Just leave it be. Does this always have to degenerate into
> personality conflicts?

What personality conflict? Do you believe that your personality is in
conflict with my personality? That can hardly be true because you don't
even know me well. However, I know you well enough to see that you seem
to grasp onto the nearest trite cliche, slogan, or dogma to express
yourself.

>>> Why should she, her
>>> clients, or myself care if you want to throw a righteous hissy fit.
>>
>> Perhaps one or more of them are members of Hissy Fittists Anonymous.
>> Who knows?
>
> Call it what you may. But don't you see how this drives people away
> from an html group when they get more attitude than answers? All the
> longest threads are like that.

Sure, that's pretty accurate. But their expectations of a helpdesk are
rather unrealistic, anyway, and as I said before, the answerers are here
for reasons of their own as well. I enjoy helping people sometimes but
I'm not going to kiss their asses to do it and I am going to express my
opinions as I, not they, see fit. If they don't like it, let them take a
hike.

> We all know where each other is coming
> from, it's not like we're covering new ground.
>
> There's a few authoring and design issues I'd like to discuss, but
> it's hard breaking any new ground when you are treated like a heretic.
> I'd rather save the energy.

As big as you are physically, you sound rather weak in spirit.

> Perhaps I just don't have the patience for this anymore.

Perhaps. Or perhaps you're just tired of the bullshit. Maybe you're
getting old, too. (Look at what happened to Blinky.) Btw, you shrink
when you age if you haven't already noticed.

--
Neredbojias
Riches are their own reward.

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