Posted by Neredbojias on 10/11/34 12:01

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:04:13
GMT dorayme scribed:

> In article <Xns9A31D3D4F61C5nanopandaneredbojias@85.214.90.236>,
> Neredbojias <monstersquasher@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> > IS THE BOTTOM AN ENGINEERING OR DESIGN DECISION?
>>
>> It's not any kind of "decision"! It's an integral part of a cup.
>
> Let us take these two answers of yours in turn:
>
> One, a decision to include or not include a feature is not
> necessarily a conscious one, not necessarily one that is
> reflected upon. But if it is a feature that could be left out,
> but is not left out, then a decision to include it has been made.
> If you don't like the word "decision" here, you can substitute
> another one (you like making up words, you will enjoy it)
>
> Two, everything that is a property of a particular cup is an
> integral part of this cup. Is there something in Boji Design
> Theory about "integrality" that you have failed to mention? An
> ingredient that needs to be understood in order to understand the
> rest of your treatise?
>
> A cup could be designed without a bottom.

Uh, no it can't. If whatever it is has no bottom, it is NOT a cup. Even
the variant of male athlete package holders have bottoms unless you wish
to be facetious and hold one at an improper attitude.

Ergo, your point "One" above is erroneous. Point "Two" is equally
malarky because a cup could have something like an insulating jacket or a
velcro strip which is not an integral part of it.

> For any number of
> purposes. When a cup creator decides to put a bottom on a cup, as
> he or she usually does, is this a design or engineering decision?

There is no "decision". Pits may be bottomless and strippers may be
bottomless but cups can't be bottomless and still be cups.

> It is a tricky subject and you are just saying this and that and
> not making a coherent whole. When you are asked a perfectly good
> question, you ad hoc. "Oh that is an integral part of the cup"
> without answering the question.

I did answer the question. You refused to accept it. Your problem.

> I have a cup sitting on my desk right now that is designed to
> half a side missing. I like this cup. I think it is a scream. I
> will take a picture of it if you say something remotely sensible
> about this whole subject or adopt an attitude of wanting to,
> learn about it instead of publicly parading your half-baked
> schmuck ideas.

Thanks, but when I wanted you to post that picture of the old man, you
selfishly refused to do so. So keep your images; they no longer interest
me.

--
Neredbojias
Riches are their own reward.

[Back to original message]