Posted by Onideus Mad Hatter on 08/15/05 05:00

On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 01:25:51 GMT, Adie <adie@example.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 16:34:41 -0700, Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 12:36:45 GMT, Adie <adie@example.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> Actually in this case I gotta agree with Mimic, Adie really is makin
>>>>>> an idiot of himself.
>>
>>>> adie does that some times. thats just adie.
>>
>>>But not on this occasion. Hatter and Mimic (you fucking clowns) If I was
>>>say a project manager,
>>
>> Who the hell would ever hire you as a project manager? That'd be like
>> hiring a beautician to build you a house.

>A project manager doesn't build the house you twit. He make decisions on
>technologies used, resources employed, the allocation of tasks, milestones
>to be hit and minds the budget.
>
>There may even be an seperate arhitect or the job is bundled with the PM.

Actually a project manager usually just manages resources, they don't
make any sort of decisions about what technologies will be used...not
directly anyway. And a smart project manager would be all for using
PHP as it's free and open source, free development tools means more
money in his and everyone else's pockets...unless he has UNSKILLED
workers, in which case PHP wouldn't be a good idea because there's no
magic corporation to call up and have em fix all your problems (for a
price). Most project managers though will look to outsource a lot of
times when they want something at a good price that uses high end
technologies because they simply can't afford to keep someone like
that employed all the time.

>>>leading the development of a website for a
>>>multi-billion dollar business and I implemented it in Flash, Coldfusion,
>>>PHP or Perl, what do you think would happen to me?

>> ...how fuckin stupid are ya kid? MOST "multi-billion dollar
>> businesses" all use Flash for the vast majority of their content.

>Some may use a modicum of flash for presentation, but of course if youre a
>serious outfit you'll provide a non-flash version. Like Ford do.

Uh oh, spin, spin, here he goes!

>> Fuckin DUH!
>> http://www.fordvehicles.com/cars/mustang/launch/

>Why do you think they provide a no-flash version?

....what does that have to do with the fact that you said
'multi-billion dollar businesses wouldn't use Flash'? Having fall
backs doesn't make your position any less weak, Kiddo. Not to mention
their fallback isn't Java nor do they even offer a fallback for ALL of
their content...in fact only on the main site.

>Why do think critical
>functionality of the site is always non-flash (in both versions)? Do all
>flash sites make great sites for search engine optimisation?

...."search engine optimisation", eh? Do tell, what's that? ^_^

*this oughta be good for some laughs*

Dribbles here is startin to sound like some of the spam scams I get in
teh email.

>> http://www.metroid.com/main.htm

>Who the hell are they?

...you're joking, right? No, really, are you THAT fucking stupid?

>Fucking site takes about a year to load.

Complain here, Stupid:
www.nintendo.com

Oh shit, they've got Flash on their main site too!

OH NOS THEY'RE RUNNING LINUX TOO!!1!

Oh chit man, there goes yer whole "argument"...again.

>>>And say if I was the owner of the local estate agents and wanted a site
>>>knocking up quickly and cheaply, would I want some geek to spend forever
>>>developing on an obscure platform that requires specialist knowledge, or
>>>would I want the site to be built using widely available skills?

>> Depends on whether you want people to actually want to come and visit
>> the site, Stupid. Furthermore, YOU don't tell the web designer what
>> to make it with. As the customer all you have to say in the matter is
>> how you'd like the design. It's no different from buying a house.
>> You tell the carpenter what you want the house to look like, you don't
>> show the fuck up on site and start yammering on about how the
>> carpenter ought to be using a miter saw instead of a box saw. If you
>> actually KNEW which saw he should be using, you wouldn't have needed
>> to hire him in the first place, you fuckin retard.

>You dodged this question as well.

....no I pretty much "hit the nail on the head" to keep with the
analogy. Is it *MY* fault that you're too gawd damn gut fuckingly
DUMB to get it? Yeesh.

>Would i want you to use obscure techniques to build my website, or
>would i want you to use standard, widely used tools?

....so let me get this straight, Trainable...you're now claiming that
Flash, PHP, etc aren't "standards" that are "widely used"?

o_O

....you're trolling right? I mean, no, seriously, you can't REALLY be
THIS fuckin stupid, can you?

>>>Personally, if you could not answer those simple questions correctly, I
>>>wouldn't give you the time of day in an interview - for either task.

>> If you had me in for an interview you'd be put in your place pretty
>> damn quick and I wouldn't hesitate to verbally hammer you into the
>> wall with my knowledge and skill. You wanna hire a carpenter that's
>> fine, but you sure as FUCK don't tell him what tools to be using. He
>> KNOWS what tools to use and why, that's why he's the carpenter and
>> YOU'RE NOT.

>Christ what are you waffling on about. Two simple questions and you managed
>to fuck it up.

Apparently Stupid here is a "prodigy" from teh School of Daan.

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