Posted by Onideus Mad Hatter on 10/13/60 11:24

On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 17:21:50 -0400, dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG>
wrote:

>On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 22:15:16 +0100, Mimic <dev@null> wrote:
>
>>Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
>>> On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 13:38:24 +0100, Mimic <dev@null> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>Like you need a survey to figure that out... ;)
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Not when he's pulling figures out of his ass anyway. *sigh* I wish
>>>>>the lurkers supported ME in email, I REALLY do...*snicker*...
>>>>>
>>>>>*Hatter hums to himself*
>>>>>http://www.backwater-productions.net/_test_platform/bw3/
>>>>>
>>>>>^_^
>>>
>>>
>>>>Looking better, you know what would make that look nice.. extend the
>>>>width to 100%, so you get a "widescreen" effect.
>>>
>>>
>>> An interesting idea, I'll test it out, see if I like it. Did you try
>>> moving your mouse on the frog?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Didnt the first time, but thats really cool :D
>>
>>
>>> Search engines supposedly won't pick them up...but then that's
>>> bullshit. Check this out:
>>> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Hatter+blog
>>>
>>> o_O
>>>
>>> Searching for Hatter and blog puts mine right up at number one and ALL
>>> the content is graphic. This is because search engines don't
>>> generally care about the actual content on your site so much as how
>>> many people are linking to you. If you click on the "cached" option
>>> in Google you can see this:
>>> "These terms only appear in links pointing to this page: hatter blog"
>>>
>>> So really, if your sites are bad ass enough, you don't need to do
>>> anything to get them "search engine optimized" or what the fuck ever
>>> scams faux web designers (like a lot of the ones around here) fall
>>> into.
>>>
>>> I figure, if no one in these froups can formulate a halfway coherent
>>> reason that I can't counter for not using Flash...I'm just gonna go
>>> ahead and do the whole thing like that.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Onideus Mad Hatter
>>
>>
>>Theres alot to SEO, and it is worth getting into. Generally its
>>considered bad SEO to do everything, particularly key aspects, in flash
>>only, same goes for images. But, google for one, have been experimenting
>>and progressing, with the indexing the textual parts of flash and images.
>>
>>The reason your site comes top would be much more to do with usenet
>>posts being cross fed into web boards, which then get google crawled. I
>>did an experiment once, something todo with doom3 [i forget]. I knew
>>there would be alot of traffic and discussion on boards for it as it was
>>just released, so I made a number of posts on the top usenet doom3
>>froups with my link in, and sure enough, these fed the webboards, which
>>now had higher traffic and higher result positions, which then increased
>>the PR of my site and lifted that up. Increased my traffic by about 400% :D
>>
>>The main SEO point where people fall down, is the whole keywords. If you
>>over pack the meta keywords or just stack keywords into the whitespace
>>of your sites [- google is big on content relevance, and thus keywords
>>in content], you can actually get banned from engines. - Again I
>>experimented with this, got off google in like 2 days :P The best thing
>>to do is use semantically correlated keywords - words that mean the same
>>thing, so you dont repeat, and used appropriately of course.
>>
>>What you could do, with the whole widescreen idea, is horizontally
>>repeat the background at 100% width, then center your content and layer
>>it over the top :)
>>
>>These may also be of use if youre going for the whole flash thing:
>>http://tinyurl.com/7pmmu
>
>mimic, werent you being mean and nasty just a day or two ago?

Mimic and I frequently spar against one another, it's not like with
laughing boi smalldick though where he's just in some desperate frenzy
to try and "get back" at me for one inane reason or another. With
Mimic it's productive arguing for the most part. I think he also
tends to argue like I do in that he'll argue against a point that he
might actually be partially in agreement with. I've found with most
everything there is no single all definitive truth or "right way" of
doing something, so debating issues is a good way of testing each
particular way to find out it's strengths and weaknesses.

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Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net

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