Posted by Mimic on 11/01/84 11:24

Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 22:15:16 +0100, Mimic <dev@null> wrote:
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>>Theres alot to SEO, and it is worth getting into. Generally its
>>considered bad SEO to do everything, particularly key aspects, in flash
>>only, same goes for images. But, google for one, have been experimenting
>>and progressing, with the indexing the textual parts of flash and images.
>
>
> Now ya see, right there I'm disagreeing and I think that's like some
> kind of old net tale. Doing only parts in Flash and the rest in HTML,
> JavaScript, etc is just gonna lead to a whole slew of problems. I
> know cause I've been experimenting with such usage. The biggest
> problems are synchronization related, especially with animated
> elements. After awhile you suddenly realize you're putting in 10
> times as much effort trying to get all this different crap to work
> together when, huh, why not just do it all in Flash? Like last night
> I'm workin on all this different shit and suddenly I'm just like,
> "What the fuck am I doing?" It's like what I was working on could
> just be so easily integrated into just one whole Flash file with so
> little extra effort and I was just stumped to find a reason why I
> shouldn't do it. I mean, really, what is the reason(s)? o_O
>

I mean say you had your xhtml page, and then you embedd your core swf
into it, you could still utilize your meta tags, pehaps even stash a
<hx> tag in there too (google is big on headers). ... for example. :)

>
>>The reason your site comes top would be much more to do with usenet
>>posts being cross fed into web boards, which then get google crawled. I
>>did an experiment once, something todo with doom3 [i forget]. I knew
>>there would be alot of traffic and discussion on boards for it as it was
>>just released, so I made a number of posts on the top usenet doom3
>>froups with my link in, and sure enough, these fed the webboards, which
>>now had higher traffic and higher result positions, which then increased
>>the PR of my site and lifted that up. Increased my traffic by about 400% :D
>
>
> On the whole I find Google to be a very poor means of "advertisement".
> I'm curious, did you actually track the redirect stats to find out
> where the users were coming from? Somehow I seriously doubt the
> majority of them were from Google results. In fact I'm betting the
> majority came directly from the web boards and Usenet groups.
>
>

I get users from all over the place (literally, even had mil sites
before :P). During the test, alot did come through nntp fed webboards,
which raised the google position from where it initially was - thats
what the experiment was all about really, using other peoples high Page
Ranks to increase my own by feeding them my url ;)


>>These may also be of use if youre going for the whole flash thing:
>>http://tinyurl.com/7pmmu
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> The link doesn't work.
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:/ does here, basically it was just a quick google of flash and seo :P

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