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 Posted by Mimic on 07/07/84 11:24 
Onideus Mad Hatter wrote: 
> On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 22:15:16 +0100, Mimic <dev@null> wrote: 
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>>Theres alot to SEO, and it is worth getting into. Generally its  
>>considered bad SEO to do everything, particularly key aspects, in flash  
>>only, same goes for images. But, google for one, have been experimenting  
>>and progressing, with the indexing the textual parts of flash and images. 
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> Now ya see, right there I'm disagreeing and I think that's like some 
> kind of old net tale.  Doing only parts in Flash and the rest in HTML, 
> JavaScript, etc is just gonna lead to a whole slew of problems.  I 
> know cause I've been experimenting with such usage.  The biggest 
> problems are synchronization related, especially with animated 
> elements.  After awhile you suddenly realize you're putting in 10 
> times as much effort trying to get all this different crap to work 
> together when, huh, why not just do it all in Flash?  Like last night 
> I'm workin on all this different shit and suddenly I'm just like, 
> "What the fuck am I doing?"  It's like what I was working on could 
> just be so easily integrated into just one whole Flash file with so 
> little extra effort and I was just stumped to find a reason why I 
> shouldn't do it.  I mean, really, what is the reason(s)?    o_O 
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I mean say you had your xhtml page, and then you embedd your core swf  
into it, you could still utilize your meta tags, pehaps even stash a  
<hx> tag in there too (google is big on headers). ... for example. :) 
 
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>>The reason your site comes top would be much more to do with usenet  
>>posts being cross fed into web boards, which then get google crawled. I  
>>did an experiment once, something todo with doom3 [i forget]. I knew  
>>there would be alot of traffic and discussion on boards for it as it was  
>>just released, so I made a number of posts on the top usenet doom3  
>>froups with my link in, and sure enough, these fed the webboards, which  
>>now had higher traffic and higher result positions, which then increased  
>>the PR of my site and lifted that up. Increased my traffic by about 400% :D 
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> On the whole I find Google to be a very poor means of "advertisement". 
> I'm curious, did you actually track the redirect stats to find out 
> where the users were coming from?  Somehow I seriously doubt the 
> majority of them were from Google results.  In fact I'm betting the 
> majority came directly from the web boards and Usenet groups. 
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I get users from all over the place (literally, even had mil sites  
before :P). During the test, alot did come through nntp fed webboards,  
which raised the google position from where it initially was - thats  
what the experiment was all about really, using other peoples high Page  
Ranks to increase my own by feeding them my url ;) 
 
 
>>These may also be of use if youre going for the whole flash thing: 
>>http://tinyurl.com/7pmmu 
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> The link doesn't work. 
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:/ does here, basically it was just a quick google of flash and seo :P 
 
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