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 Posted by Onideus Mad Hatter on 06/14/18 11:24 
On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 19:28:18 -0500, Spanky The Thunder Chicken 
<antny@meow.org> wrote: 
 
>In article <ucbfg11s841cght44j5msi4kjpn8mvddr7@4ax.com>, 
> Onideus Mad Hatter <usenet@backwater-productions.net> wrote: 
> 
>> On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 16:48:57 -0500, Spanky The Thunder Chicken 
>> <antny@meow.org> wrote: 
>>  
>> >In article <1f3fg19da20c7kerojh829321uq86kkpii@4ax.com>, 
>> > Onideus Mad Hatter <usenet@backwater-productions.net> wrote: 
>> > 
>> >> On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 13:30:49 -0500, Spanky The Thunder Chicken 
>> >> <antny@meow.org> wrote: 
>> >>  
>> >> >Nope and nope for Mac OS X 10.2 with Safari 1.0.3 and IE 5.2.  It's  
>> >> >horizontally centered under Safari, but you only see the bottom half or  
>> >> >so of it (it's positioned off the top of the screen).  Under IE, it's  
>> >> >just in the upper left corner as though it's not positioned at all. 
>> >>  
>> >> Can you test it again for me, I just made some alterations.  The way 
>> >> it's set up now is ~should~ work perfectly on Safari and IE on the 
>> >> Mac...according to this site anyway: 
>> >> http://www.quirksmode.org/viewport/compatibility.html 
>> >>  
>> >> I used document.documentElement.offsetWidth/Height for Opera and then 
>> >> self.innerWidth/Height for everything else (they don't mention 
>> >> Konqueror though, so it might not work on that). 
>> > 
>> >I got the same result for both browsers (half off the top of the screen  
>> >on Safari, no positioning on IE). 
>> > 
>> >You can try the <table> <td valign="middle" align="center"> thing, but  
>> >what I've discovered about that is that it won't work if you include a  
>> ><!DOCTYPE="whatever"> definition (or maybe I wasn't defining the right  
>> >doctype).  
>> > 
>> >I know you sneered at using tables to format the page before, but if it  
>> >works, it works. 
>>  
>> Well I don't mind using tables, it's just that the peanut gallery will 
>> start screaming about W3C compliancy.  I might just have to give in 
>> the old adage, "Can't please everyone." though. 
>>  
>> *ponders* 
>>  
>> ...actually, now that I think about it I could use the table method 
>> but then encapsulate it into the .js script and that way it would 
>> still validate. 
> 
>Well, much as I hate to actually use you as an author of words of  
>wisdom, but as you once said (paraphrased), it's standard if it works in  
>all the browsers. 
> 
>Fuck the W3C. 
> 
>Like I said, if you want to validate, you'll probably have to experiment  
>with the doctype declaration.  If you omit that, most everything works. 
> 
>Once again, fuck the W3C. 
 
Indeed, fuck em, I've decided to just go and create my own doctype, I 
should be done with it in a few hours. 
 
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Onideus Mad Hatter 
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http://www.backwater-productions.net
 
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