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Posted by Mimic on 08/22/05 03:15

Spanky The Thunder Chicken wrote:
> In article <ucbfg11s841cght44j5msi4kjpn8mvddr7@4ax.com>,
> Onideus Mad Hatter <usenet@backwater-productions.net> wrote:
>
>
>>On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 16:48:57 -0500, Spanky The Thunder Chicken
>><antny@meow.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>In article <1f3fg19da20c7kerojh829321uq86kkpii@4ax.com>,
>>>Onideus Mad Hatter <usenet@backwater-productions.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 13:30:49 -0500, Spanky The Thunder Chicken
>>>><antny@meow.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Nope and nope for Mac OS X 10.2 with Safari 1.0.3 and IE 5.2. It's
>>>>>horizontally centered under Safari, but you only see the bottom half or
>>>>>so of it (it's positioned off the top of the screen). Under IE, it's
>>>>>just in the upper left corner as though it's not positioned at all.
>>>>
>>>>Can you test it again for me, I just made some alterations. The way
>>>>it's set up now is ~should~ work perfectly on Safari and IE on the
>>>>Mac...according to this site anyway:
>>>>http://www.quirksmode.org/viewport/compatibility.html
>>>>
>>>>I used document.documentElement.offsetWidth/Height for Opera and then
>>>>self.innerWidth/Height for everything else (they don't mention
>>>>Konqueror though, so it might not work on that).
>>>
>>>I got the same result for both browsers (half off the top of the screen
>>>on Safari, no positioning on IE).
>>>
>>>You can try the <table> <td valign="middle" align="center"> thing, but
>>>what I've discovered about that is that it won't work if you include a
>>><!DOCTYPE="whatever"> definition (or maybe I wasn't defining the right
>>>doctype).
>>>
>>>I know you sneered at using tables to format the page before, but if it
>>>works, it works.
>>
>>Well I don't mind using tables, it's just that the peanut gallery will
>>start screaming about W3C compliancy. I might just have to give in
>>the old adage, "Can't please everyone." though.
>>
>>*ponders*
>>
>>...actually, now that I think about it I could use the table method
>>but then encapsulate it into the .js script and that way it would
>>still validate.
>
>
> Well, much as I hate to actually use you as an author of words of
> wisdom, but as you once said (paraphrased), it's standard if it works in
> all the browsers.
>
> Fuck the W3C.
>
> Like I said, if you want to validate, you'll probably have to experiment
> with the doctype declaration. If you omit that, most everything works.
>
> Once again, fuck the W3C.
>

Thats what microsoft said after it pushed netscape out the way - the
result is all the xbrowser problems we see today.

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Mimic

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