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Posted by Onideus Mad Hatter on 08/22/05 15:08
On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 17:04:34 +1000, Vampi Fangs <vampi@nwglfo.org>
wrote:
>>>you can put anything you like in your dtd to trick a validator, but it
>>>still doesn't mean your markup syntax will be correct or cross browser
>>>compatible
>>Okay Vamps, yer a lil slow so let me explain this to your dumbass.
>>
>>1. the existing W3C proposed standards ARE NOT cross browser
>>compatible, they couldn't be, because NO BROWSER IN EXISTENCE fully
>>complies with W3C specs...in fact most all of them don't even come
>>close to 70% compliancy...nor should they for that matter. If all
>>browsers were W3C compliant there wouldn't be any point to having more
>>than one browser.
>omg
What did you just have an apifany? Suddenly realize how fucking DUMB
you are?
>>2. The DTD is a HACKED DTD, you can't ~really~ make your own DTD from
>>scratch...well I suppose you could but it wouldn't validate on the
>>W3Cs website. It would come up with zero errors though if you matched
>>it.
>you patently haven't delved into custom xhtml/xml declarations, you
>poor ole thing
If I wanted "your" opinion I'd go run a Google search.
>>3. There is no such thing as "correct", VampiCramps.
>as you speak as one whose pathetic markup has broken more browsers
>than i've ever seen, your blither is fabulously comical
http://www.backwater-productions.net/
Should work with anything, Stupid. Find me a browser/OS combo that it
doesn't work on (and don't just shit at the mouth, post a screen
capture to prove yourself).
>> I'm not sure at
>>what point you got it into that thick fuckin skull of yours that there
>>was some absolute "right way" of web coding, but you just need to wake
>>it the fuck up right now and come on back to reality, Stupid.
>>
>>4. All of these are points that you would EASILY comprehend...if you
>>actually were a web designer/coder. To put a fine point on
>>it...you're not. You're basically the web designer/coder equivalent
>>of a pop psychologist, ya stupid Fruitk00k.
>your alzheimers is kicking in again
Well don't stop now, Stupid, go ahead and post all the links to your
incredible sites! *snicker*
>>>>LOL, you see how easily Vampicramps is exposed when she can't find
>>>>anything in Google to back herself up with. The minute you start
>>>>talking about high end subjects like DTD hacking that aren't covered
>>>>very well by existing online sources and she just starts fumbling
>>>>around in the dark like an idiot. What, do you think no one notices,
>>>>ya stupid moron.
>>No comment? I guess you know it's true then, neh?
>there's plenty of online sources on dtds, but it's become very clear
>your familiarity with them is scanty
No, no, see unlike you I don't just READ shit in Google, I actually
TEST IT. It's a little something I like to call "experience"...get
some, you'll look less stupid.
>>>why?
>>1. It takes about 10 times as much effort.
>why? it's much quicker and easier and more concise than hacking up a
>dubious dtd
Hacking the DTD only took 10 minutes (probably DAYS less than what
that other fruit ball put into his failed endeavor). And once it's
been done...that's it. I mean, there's no other steps, no making
Flash loaders or any stupid hoo ha like that, it's just done, finshed.
>>2. It's less efficient
>bullshit
Close your mouth then and quit typing.
>>3. It moves away from standardization (the kind that actually exists,
>>not the fairy tale, hand holding, fantasy land bullshit the W3C puts
>>out)
>nonsense ... <object> is the standard
There's you...not knowing what the fuck you're talking about again.
>your created entities and attributes are not
>
>>4. devicefont
>>5. play
>>6. loop
>>7. quality
>>8. bgcolor
>>9. scale
>>10. salign
>>11. menu
>>12. wmode
>>13. allowscriptaccess
>>14. SeamlessTabbing
Oh *MY* created entities and attributes, neh? LOL, hey everybody,
apparently I inveted all the different Flash parameters! Damn, I'm
even cooler than I first thought! Like wmode, fuck that means I
invented Flash transparencies, sweet!
>perhaps you might like to produce a list of the corresponding object
>parameters rather than revelling in deprecated embed attributes
Hey, hey MORON, you *DO* know that you don't need the object tags,
right? With all teh latest browsers versions (at least on Windows)
all you need is the embed tag. I mean...
http://www.backwater-productions.net/
o_O
Do you see the word "object" in there anywhere?
And free cl00, STUPID, the parameters for object are GOING TO BE THE
SAME for the embed tag...you stupid fuckin doorknob! Yeesh,
apparently you don't even fuckin comprehend what those tags are doing!
>>>it also provides an elegant way to display content to non-flash
>>>enabled browsers
>>Actually it's not elegant at all, in fact the d00d pretty much says
>>it's a bastardize way of doing it, nor does he give hardly any
>>information on WHAT browser and WHAT operating systems he tested it on
>>(10 to 1 says it'll frell on at least half of them).
>it doesn't
"The workaround is simple: just include one sacrificial movie at the
front of your site with the codebase attribute left in. This needs to
be a movie with no purpose within the sitejust a 1k empty blob of
nothingness that causes the user to be prompted if they have an old
version of the plug in. Not the cleanest approach, but a practical
one. It shouldnt lose you any friends."
>>And yes, Vampicramps, I was aware of the screwballs method...LOOOONG
>>before your dumbass Googled it up in abject frustration at looking
>>like a FUCKING MORON!
>>
>>>>...well I suppose if you were just some stupid POSER like you making
>>>>your own custom DTD might be impossible, but still, I'm sure there are
>>>>SOME freebie prehacked DTDs out there that you could download.
>>>>
>>>>Free cl00, MORON, what happens if you wanna lil Quicktime?
>>
>>>we weren't discussing quicktime, but flash ...
>>
>>No Stupid, we were discussing the embed tag, which applied to ALL
>>sorts of stuff, not just Flash. Google, Bitch, GOOGLE!
>
>">>>>if you are using flash and xhtml, afaik you don't need to use
>embed"
>
><snip hatter idiocy>
Boy you have no idea how relieved I am to see you decided to shut
yourself the fuck up about that whole "cross platform code for mp3s"
cause I didn't wanna have to verbally fuck ya up TWICE in one night.
o_O
--
Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
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