Posted by Jochem Maas on 02/23/05 13:35

Rory Browne wrote:
> How to use this list best:
>
> Search the archives at lists.php.net for [NEWBIE GUIDE] It was written
> by Jay Blanchard earlier this year I believe. Read it.

heh Rory, is this aimed at me or did you just reply to my mail for
convienience? I happen to know the NEWBIE GUIDE quiet intimately
(n'est pas Jay? :-)

>
> Then read this: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> Then try learning PHP from the PHP manual. If you come across a
> problem, then explain the problem, AND WHAT STEPS YOU HAVE TAKEN TO
> SOLVE THE PROBLEM YOURSELF BEFORE POSTING TO THE LIST.
>
> Give a little back. After you've learn't a little, and you see someone

me again. well i have mailed the list 235 times since 12-1-05 (as far as my local
mail folders go atm) - granted not all are useful/valid answers,
- compared to your 7 posts. I feel that I have satisfied the 'little' in
'give a little back' even if you don't :-).

anyway its not a pissing content, besides if it was I'd put my money on
Richard Lynch for all categories:

1. total number of posts
2. highest average no. of posts/week
3. longest post
4. total no. of words written
5. highest average no. of words/post

:-)

> else posting a question that you know the answer to an feel you can
> explain well, then hit your email clients reply button.
>
> If you want to fit in, and you want to be taken seriously, and most
> importantly if you want to learn, then consider the above points.

again is this aimed at me? no biggy but really I don't want to fit
in all that bad....

<quote person="Groucho Marx">
I wouldn't join any club that would have me as a member ;-)
</quote>

....

>
>
>
> On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 23:21:48 +0100, Jochem Maas <jochem@iamjochem.com> wrote:
>
>>Bret Hughes wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 2005-02-22 at 05:27, Dhanasekar T wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>hi all,
>>>>i m new to this group ...now i want to learn php.
>>
>>right now? not in five minutes.

I was kidding!

>>
>>
>>>>i want all u r guidence to utilise this group...
>>>>thanks in advance
>>>>dhanas
>>>
>>Dhanas,
>>
>>do you have php installed ?

Dhana is very welcome to answer this question, and maybe give
some background as to his/her general skill level

**give us more input Dhana and maybe we can point you in the
right direction**

so come on Dhana - talk to us, tell us what your capable of
and what you would like to accomplish (be specific and start out
small if your a 'virgin programmer' ;-)

>>can you access http://php.net ? the best place to start
>>reading/learning....
>>
>>
>>>
>>>I would start by looking at and dare I say reading the manual at
>>>php.net. Then surf around for a beginners tutorial, and start coding.
>>>
>>>I suspect the learning curve shape depends on whether you have any
>>>previous programming experience or not.
>>
>>hey! I was looking forward to being utilized. ;-)

my hope is that Dhana is not so stupid that he assumes that my bit of
humor was directly meant to make fun of his command of the english language.

I can find Dhanas use of words funny without requiring that I also
must mock him... besides the fact that I made the joke might be useful feedback
to Dhana with regard to bettering his English - Im sure he/she wishes to be able to
communicate as effectively as possible.

going back to your point about 'If you want to fit in': we are in the lower
echelons of hackerdom (for want of a better description). Fitting in entails
acting like a hacker.....which means be f****** resourceful, read, study, test,
experiment, don't _expect_ to be spoonfed knowledge/answers (heh you may get
lucky once in a while and get a visit from the BlueFairy but don't count on it).

we that was my daily dose of prescribed stress relief :-)

>>
>>
>>>Bret
>>>
>>
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