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 Posted by jake on 08/29/05 13:02 
In message <Pine.WNT.4.63.0508282228170.320@ZORIN>, Alan J. Flavell  
<flavell@physics.gla.ac.uk> writes 
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>On Sun, 28 Aug 2005, jake wrote: 
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>> In message <Pine.WNT.4.63.0508281109170.1992@ZORIN>, Alan J. Flavell 
>> <flavell@physics.gla.ac.uk> writes 
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>> > And it sure isn't going to work with w3m, emacs-w3, lynx.  Nor google nor 
>> > any other search engines, either. 
>> 
>> Maybe it's just as well that it will work for the 90% of the Web population 
>> using IE ;-) 
> 
>I don't know where you got your figures from, but the proportion of people 
>who regard MSIE as a web browser seems to be falling. 
 
There's various figures bandied around on the Web, but most of these  
seem to run in the range upwards of 85%. 
 
Although no longer in the 'Web business' myself, I do contribute the  
occasional page to a local organisation and like to monitor the visitor  
statistics. 
 
According to the stats, something like 98% of the (random) visitors to  
the site use some release of IE. Assuming that some of the stats reflect  
other browsers masquerading as IE, I suspect that '90% of genuine IE  
users' is not an exaggerated figure. 
 
>(I might add that 
>MSIE deliberately flouts several mandatory requirements of the 
>interworking specifications and thereby disqualifies itself as a web 
>browser in the technical sense, but here we're probably discussing user 
>beliefs rather than theoretical principles.) 
 
Quite so. 
 
> 
>> > Which could be terribly misleading, if the web page 
>> > was relying on it, rather than just using it for optional decoration. 
>> 
>> The browser will simply fall back on the default font(s) if it  
>>doesn't support 
>> font embedding. So I'm not quite sure I see a problem here. 
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>The problem is when authors use the technique to present some custom 
>glyph, rather than merely a cosmetic variation.  I'm sorry if I hadn't 
>made that distinction clear. 
 
That's fine. I take your point. 
 
>> It's just presenting text in a preferred font; 
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>If that's all that it does, and regular fonts are likely to cover the 
>needed character repertoire too, then you're OK, and my concerns are 
>ill-founded, indeed.  I'm sorry if you felt we were arguing at cross- 
>purposes. 
 
 
regards. 
 
--  
Jake 
(jake@gododdin.demon.co.uk .... just a spam trap.)
 
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