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Posted by John Nichel on 09/16/05 23:47

Brad Dameron wrote:
> On Fri, 2005-09-16 at 15:33 -0400, John Nichel wrote:
>
>>The OS install will take between 1 - 3 hours, depending on the machine.
>> Setting up mod_rewrite to work via .htaccess is simple; compile it in,
>>and make sure it's allowed to work via .htaccess in the httpd.conf. Not
>>really sure what the OP meant by wildcard DNS, but if it was just
>>*.mydomain.com, the zone file nor the Apache config are all that tough.
>> Copying over DB's...fast as the machine can copy. These are all the
>>easy, quick tasks.
>>
>>Building Apache/PHP can take some time depending on what you want
>>included. Vanilla installs of the two I can do in under 30 minutes, but
>>once you start including modules, you may or may not have to install
>>other software to meet the dependencies of those modules. Then there's
>>whether or not he wants SSL, mm, or other modules in Apache. And we
>>haven't even touched on init scripts, or security...that's all part of
>>getting this stuff up and running. No offense, but if someone's doing
>>this in 6 hours, I would be worried about the job not being complete.
>>
>
>
> This is not Windows we are talking about where you have to wait for each
> reboot. And then reboot again and again after patching. I can do a full
> Fedora Core 4/SuSe Pro 9.3/SuSe Enterprise 9 install in under and hour.
> Add another 30 minutes for updates, due to my T1 slow download speeds.

And now you have a vanilla rpm install of all of the software. *I*
wouldn't hire a person to do the job for me if that's what I'm going to
get. YMMV

> I've been following this and I can say for a fact this could be done in
> 6 hours or less. And guarantee a secure server. How do I know? Because I
> build these configurations almost daily. If you get stuck with init
> scripts there's something wrong. Maybe you should man "chkconfig".

I didn't say anything about getting 'stuck with init'. I pointed it out
as another thing which has to be done in an install. If you're building
this almost daily, maybe you should look into making yourself an image.

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John C. Nichel
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KegWorks.com
716.856.9675
john@kegworks.com

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