Posted by Barbara de Zoete on 10/10/77 11:28

On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 11:43:54 +0200, Jemdam.com <noemail@nospamplease.com> wrote:

> "Barbara de Zoete" <b_de_zoete@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:op.sx4ql8rrx5vgts@zoete_b...
>> [ Please quote properly and do not top-post; quote the part
>> you respond to, attribute the quote, then put your response
>> underneath. Cut all that you don't directly respond to.
>> Corrected once. ]
>
>>> Well it took me ages to find the answer to that question. I have found
>>> over the past 10 years of being a webmaster that google seaches will only
>>> make
>>> a small percentage of your traffic.
>>
>> Really? I think this might be true for either badly built sites (with
>> little to spider) or sites that have a very havy competition (like porn).
>> Which category does your site fit in?
>
> I disagree with this.

You have to, since the site you present has over 500 errors in its markup.
<http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pubtricks.com%2F> The page
is a markup nightmare. There is no way to know how your page would perform with
the major search engines, if it is build better and all content is accessible
with ease.

> I get about 30% of my traffic from search engine.

That's like a miracle.

> With
> search engines alone I would have an alexa rating of 500000 or higher. With
> link exchanges I'm now about 100000. The site is number 1 for may search
> terms in google. The domain is:
>
> http://www.pubtricks.com
>
> I'm in the top 10 for
>
> Pub tricks
> Bar Tricks
> + many magic terms etc

How about the plain 'magic' or 'magic trick'? Doesn't work, does it. I don't
know about you, but if I wanted a cool magic trick, I would search for 'magic
trick'. Not 'pub' or 'bar trick'.

> Google just doesn't make that bigger impact.

Somehow you just prooved my point. A site well built gets its traffic through
search engines because they can spider and index the lot. A site not that well
built (over five hundred errors in markup can qualify as such) has to resort to
other systems to generate traffic.

> I strongly feel there is no magic method of making traffic other than hard
> work (or may be RSS feeds but that is a whole other story).

Oh, but creating accessible and usable sites _is_ hard work.

> I welcome other webmasters views, but only comment if you are a big (ish)
> player, i.e. Alexa rating below 250000 as you just don't have enough traffic
> to know the effect of links vs google.

:-D You shouldn't try to keep people out of a thread. As soon as _you_ exclude
(groups of) people, that is a sure reason for them to get and stay involved.

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