Posted by dorayme on 10/14/05 07:05

> From: "windandwaves" <winandwaves@coldmail.com>

> How do you convince your clients they need to clean up their mess "behind
> the scenes"? and can we blame frontpage + dreamweaver for this mess?
>

If they are your clients, and certainly if your position is not
new or precarious, it depends to some extent on your standing,
your record with them, the respect they hold for you (see note
1). You can work in the changes gradually (see note 2) as the
updates are done. And sort of announce them as fait complete as
part of the work. You need to be reasonable in how you charge
for this and take on a little without charge, it never kills you
and boosts your confidence as you become prouder and more in
control. And if you go really good css and minimal html, no one
else but you, Mark Parnell, Els, Jonathon and Toby Inkster (see
note 3) would know anything about it anyway and are unlikely to
be found to take it over, so the firm would be stuck with you
(destroy all the old mish mash code)...

dorayme

Note 1: In my case, I have a simple technique, I employ gunmen
to sort of hang around when a client might visit or have them
hang about in the car or lobby when I am visiting. Men like the
three at the very start at the railway station in Once Upon a
Time in the West (Claudia Cardinale, Charles Bronson, Henry
Fonda and Luigi Donatello). Yeah, I know, they got shot up real
bad by their mouth organ playing quarry, (Charles Bronson in his
best role ever), when he arrived on the next train). Wanna know
why he was playing the mouth organ (hauntingly) at all by any
chance? It's worth knowing...

Note 2: I play some tracks from the parts of the cartoons where
Jerry is trying to sneak up on Tom when I do this...

Note 3: Look here, I know I have left some other good folk out
but the point is still good. You might have to watch out for
Korpela though... unlike me, he probably does not need gunmen to
accompany him...

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