Posted by Tony Cooper on 10/19/05 16:28

On 19 Oct 2005 05:45:26 -0700, "Travis Newbury"
<TravisNewbury@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Tony Cooper wrote:
>> >Interesting, I see it differently. I see Parry as the cynical one by
>> >leaving his client in a lurch if the client does not do what Parry
>> >says.
>> >Tell me again, who's website is it?
>> If I was in the market to purchase website design, I can't imagine
>> hiring a designer that would argue with me about the content, visual
>> aspects, or sound aspects of the site.
>
>We are not talking about designers

I'm not sure what the difference is between a website designer and a
website developer. When I use the word "designer", I'm referring to
the person that does all that stuff that shows up when you "View
Source". Sorry if I'm using a word incorrectly in your field.

>> If my intent is to put up a
>> website to sell lawn ornaments to trailer park residents, and my sense
>> of the market tells me that an animated windmill and the automatic
>> playing of "Farmer in the Dell" will appeal to my target market, I
>> don't expect argument from the designer.
>
>But do you want the developer (not designer) to tell you about the
>problem your design might cause? (maybe dial up customers can't see the
>windmill correctly) "I" sure would want to know that information if it
>were my website. Then after I weight it, I may decide to do it anyway.

Not really. I'm hiring you because I think you should be able to
figure out how to make the windmill appear to all that view the site.

>So I want a developer that will tell me things I may not know or
>understand, then follow the directions I give.

I don't have any experience in hiring website developers/designers.
Having owned some companies, I am familiar with dealing with people
who provide custom computers and software programs. Same tree,
different branch.

The problem the average purchaser has is that the average provider of
the product or service insists on going on at length about the
technical way that this is done or that is done. We - the average
purchasers - don't give a rat's ass how you get the windmill on the
page. We just want it there.

People selling products - from computers to programming to website
development - seem to feel that it is important to impress the client
by using every technical term in the books. It's almost a
one-upsmanship thing where the provider says "You want a
JavaScript...?" hoping the purchaser will expose his ignorance by
asking "What's JavaScript?" so the seller can establish his expertise
by going on and on about something the client has no interest in.

A quick anecdote: When I was buying my first computer system for a
company that I owned in the 80s, a salesman asked me if I wanted a
"vanilla system". I'd never heard that term before. I thought he
meant some system made by Vanilla, Inc. or something. I told him that
I didn't care who made the system and he laughed at me. I was so
embarrassed that I bought a system from someone else. Had the
salesman asked me if I wanted a basic, pre-packaged system, I might
have worked with him.


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Tony Cooper
Orlando, FL

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