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Posted by Curtis on 12/29/05 10:21
Len Philpot <len@philpot.org> wrote in message
news:MPG.1e1d043b6b2d6c1a98974b@news.central.cox.net...
> No code written yet, but I'm trying to figure out how to
replace the
> functionality of a two-frame (nav/content) layout with
CSS. I've heard
> the objections to frames and although I've never
personally had any
> problems with them, I don't dismiss the validity of the
arguments
> against them. However, I like the idea of a unchanging,
non-scrolling
> nav bar to one side of the page, with the content free to
do it's thing
> on the other side (personal preference). I also like the
idea of the nav
> frame being one piece of code that's not repeated for each
content file
> that gets loaded.
>
> So, how do I duplicate that with CSS?
>
> Let's say I have two styles :
>
> body
> {
> margin-left: 220px;
> }
>
> .nav
> {
> position: fixed;
> top: 0px;
> left: 0px;
> width: 200px;
> height: auto;
> }
>
> I've seen enough to know that in Firefox this will work.
The nav-styled
> content will stay static to the left while the rest of the
<body> goes
> on independently about its business to the right of it.
>
> Good deal. Except it doesn't work in IE, which apparently
doesn't
> recognize 'fixed'. 'absolute', 'static', etc., etc., don't
give the
> desired results. Both parts scroll together, either side
by side, or one
> renders ahead of the other.
>
> Also, even if I get this to work as desired, how do I
populate 'nav' on
> multiple pages from a single source, without using SSI (is
it possible
> with <object>)? The reason I say without SSI is that this
is just a
> hobby page and my ISP doesn't provide any SSI (nor Perl,
JS, php, etc.)
> for the defacto ("free") web hosting with standard
accounts.
>
> Can it be done?
>
> Thanks.
As I learn about HTML and CSS, including the antiframe
rhetoric one encounters, I am regularly surprised at how
many really solid, well-developed applications use frames.
Two notable recent examples are the admin section of
VBulletin, and the Horde webmail program.
I probably haven't heard all the arguments, but so far I'm
not persuaded that frames are Satan incarnate. I don't use
them, but I wouldn't be afraid to do so.
Not an answer to your question, I know, but there it is.
--
Curtis
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